Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Jul 9, 2019 04:31
4 yrs ago
Spanish term
lazo
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Architecture
I'm working on an academic article, peninsular Spanish to American English, on the history of architecture in early modern Spain. The information I've found so far seems to indicate that the lazo is used as a decorative element (a bow or ribbon), but now, in the sentence I'm working on, it looks more like they're using it to indicate a structural element or building material:
con salas rectangulares y cámaras cuadradas cubiertas con **artesonados de lazo** e incluso mocárabes
He's describing the basic floor plan and construction of a "Castilian" house (as an architectural style, and as opposed to a "Morisco" style house). Doesn't this syntax sound like the ceiling is made of a substance called "lazo"?
Anyway, here's what I've got:
with rectangular rooms and square bedrooms topped with **coffered ceilings of lazo** and even mocarabes.
Any ideas of what this might be, or how I might be misinterpreting it (such that "lazos" is still somehow being used to mean "bows")?
con salas rectangulares y cámaras cuadradas cubiertas con **artesonados de lazo** e incluso mocárabes
He's describing the basic floor plan and construction of a "Castilian" house (as an architectural style, and as opposed to a "Morisco" style house). Doesn't this syntax sound like the ceiling is made of a substance called "lazo"?
Anyway, here's what I've got:
with rectangular rooms and square bedrooms topped with **coffered ceilings of lazo** and even mocarabes.
Any ideas of what this might be, or how I might be misinterpreting it (such that "lazos" is still somehow being used to mean "bows")?
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +5 | strapwork | Marie Wilson |
3 | lace/ribbon | Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón |
References
Artesonado | philgoddard |
Proposed translations
+5
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Selected
strapwork
Lazo:
Término: Lacería
http://tesauros.mecd.es/tesauros/bienesculturales/1195551
Lazaría gl Llaceries ca Strapwork en
RDF/XMLNotation3RDF/JSONJSON-LD
Definición
Motivo ornamental compuesto por molduras* o líneas que siguen un modelo geométrico y que se cruzan y enlazan alternativamente entre sí, manteniendo el ritmo y la simetría. En ocasiones, incluyen figuras* en el interior de los elementos geométricos.
In the history of art and design, strapwork is the use of stylised representations in ornament of ribbon-like forms. These may loosely imitate leather straps,[1] parchment or metal cut into elaborate shapes, with piercings, and often interwoven in a geometric pattern. ... carved in wood, or moulded in plaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strapwork
Tapestry in the Renaissance: Art and Magnificence
https://books.google.es/books?isbn=1588390225 - Traducir esta página
Thomas P. Campbell, Maryan Wynn Ainsworth, Metropolitan Museum of Art (New York, N.Y.) - 2002 - Art
The canopy represents a shallow coffered ceiling, decorated with strapwork
Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art & Architecture: Three-Volume Set
https://books.google.es/books?isbn=019530991X -
Jonathan Bloom, Sheila S. Blair, Sheila Blair - 2009 - Architecture
Coffered ceilings of this type continued to be con-structed in Spain until the late 17th century.
The panels, which were nailed or glued to the rafters and collar-beams and concealed the entire roof structure, were usually decorated with elaborately carved and joined strapwork. The laths, which left the rafters and collar-beams visible, were usually painted.
Término: Lacería
http://tesauros.mecd.es/tesauros/bienesculturales/1195551
Lazaría gl Llaceries ca Strapwork en
RDF/XMLNotation3RDF/JSONJSON-LD
Definición
Motivo ornamental compuesto por molduras* o líneas que siguen un modelo geométrico y que se cruzan y enlazan alternativamente entre sí, manteniendo el ritmo y la simetría. En ocasiones, incluyen figuras* en el interior de los elementos geométricos.
In the history of art and design, strapwork is the use of stylised representations in ornament of ribbon-like forms. These may loosely imitate leather straps,[1] parchment or metal cut into elaborate shapes, with piercings, and often interwoven in a geometric pattern. ... carved in wood, or moulded in plaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strapwork
Tapestry in the Renaissance: Art and Magnificence
https://books.google.es/books?isbn=1588390225 - Traducir esta página
Thomas P. Campbell, Maryan Wynn Ainsworth, Metropolitan Museum of Art (New York, N.Y.) - 2002 - Art
The canopy represents a shallow coffered ceiling, decorated with strapwork
Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art & Architecture: Three-Volume Set
https://books.google.es/books?isbn=019530991X -
Jonathan Bloom, Sheila S. Blair, Sheila Blair - 2009 - Architecture
Coffered ceilings of this type continued to be con-structed in Spain until the late 17th century.
The panels, which were nailed or glued to the rafters and collar-beams and concealed the entire roof structure, were usually decorated with elaborately carved and joined strapwork. The laths, which left the rafters and collar-beams visible, were usually painted.
Peer comment(s):
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neilmac
: Google images has loads of examples....
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Thanks, Neil!
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Charles Davis
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Thanks, Charles!
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bigedsenior
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Thanks, Bigedsenior!
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Adolfo Fulco
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JohnMcDove
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Thanks, John :-)
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lace/ribbon
Adornos en los frisos: lacework, ribbons.
https://www.pinterest.com.mx/dunour/lace-in-architecture/
https://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/listón
https://www.pinterest.com.mx/dunour/lace-in-architecture/
https://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/listón
Reference comments
1 hr
Reference:
Artesonado
Coffered is about right.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artesonado
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Note added at 1 hr (2019-07-09 05:58:50 GMT)
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And here's lazo:
http://www.glosarioarquitectonico.com/glossary/lazo/
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artesonado
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Note added at 1 hr (2019-07-09 05:58:50 GMT)
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And here's lazo:
http://www.glosarioarquitectonico.com/glossary/lazo/
Discussion
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/449461
Here's a previous question I've only just found. The answerer is/was an art specialist:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/architecture/8...
As for whether to gloss the meaning, personally I wouldn't. Even if it weren't an article for specialists in architecture, I always tend to feel that if readers don't understand a term all they have to do is google it; they don't even have to buy a dictionary these days. If they can't be bothered, that's their problem. But in this context I think it's not only unnecessary but actually undesirable, since it implies that readers will not have heard of it, and specialist readers don't like being patronised.
The reason I left it mocarabe was simply because that was the "translation" I found first. I discovered muqarna purely by accident as I was digging for something to do with lazos (go figure), and from the source I was reading, I wasn't sure if they were saying that was the term used in English or not, whereas it looked like mocarabe WAS a recognized English form. Again, I'll have to think about this more before I decide for sure. But I take it you're inclined to think muquarna is the way to go?
Here it means a kind of decorative element:
"El artesonado tiene forma octogonal, está decorado con estrellas de seis puntas recorridas por un cordón y muestra en el centro un mozárabe (un elemento arquitectónico decorativo a base de prismas yuxtapuestos)."
In English I think "mocárabes/mozárabes" would be called "muqarnas".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqarnas
"The arched niche at the mosque's entrance facing Wazir Khan Chowk is richly decorated with floral motifs, and features one of Lahore's first examples of a muqarna - an architectural element found at the Alhambra in Spain, as well as on several imperial mosques in Iran."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wazir_Khan_Mosque