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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

ersatzlos beheben

English translation:

set aside the penalty order and not replace it with a different penalty order

Added to glossary by Mary Burdman
Apr 25, 2018 20:43
6 yrs ago
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German term

ersatzlos beheben

German to English Law/Patents Law (general) Appeal
This is in an Austrian text.
The full sentence reads:
Beantragt wurde, das XX möge das beschwerdegegenständliche Straferkenntnis **ersatzlos beheben** und das Verwaltungsstrafverfahren einstellen, in eventu es bei einer Ermahnung bewenden lassen.

I would appreciate any answers!
Thanks,
Mary
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 set aside the penalty order and not replace it with a different penalty order
3 +1 repeal the ruling
3 +1 set aside and quash the administrative penalty
3 (fully) desist from
3 withdraw the charges and terminate proceedings
3 overturn the fine without referral back/further adjudication
References
What is a Straferkenntnis

Discussion

Mary Burdman (asker) Apr 27, 2018:
Hi Michael - It is, as I wrote originally, an Austrian text, and 'ersatzlos' is the issue, as you point out. Thanks, your contribution is very useful!
Mary Burdman (asker) Apr 26, 2018:
To Paul Skidmore: Could you re-submit your response as an answer rather than as a reference? I found it to be the clearest and most direct translation. Thanks!
Michael Martin, MA Apr 26, 2018:
And it's das Straferkenntnis not die Straferkenntnis as I erroneously suggested
Mary Burdman (asker) Apr 26, 2018:
Thanks Paul, your comment is very helpful. This involves an administrative court ruling.
Mary Burdman (asker) Apr 26, 2018:
I don't think 'jurisdiction' is correct for 'ersatzlos.' I find that 'ersatzlos streichen' is often translated as 'cancel,' which would be coherent with Kim's proposal.
Michael Martin, MA Apr 26, 2018:
This sounds like Privatdeutsch Here is my version:
Beantragt wurde, DASS XX DIE beschwerdegegenständliche Straferkenntnis ersatzlos beheben MÖGE
AllegroTrans Apr 26, 2018:
Is XX the higher or lower court? Are these administrative, rather than criminal proceedings perhaps? Compensation (damages? criminal injuries compensation?) seems to be implied. Do you know anything about that from the rest of the text?
AllegroTrans Apr 26, 2018:
Some more background (anonymised) to the case might help
Mary Burdman (asker) Apr 26, 2018:
There was a previous ruling by the court in this case, Kim. The 'ersatzlos' really puzzled me. I don't see how "without substitution" would fit either.
Mary Burdman (asker) Apr 26, 2018:
XX refers to a specific court.
AllegroTrans Apr 25, 2018:
Asker Who or what is XX? The plaintiff? The prosecutor? Are these criminal or civil proceedings? What is the background?

Proposed translations

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1 day 13 hrs
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set aside the penalty order and not replace it with a different penalty order

As requested below, I am now posting this as answer.

The phrase "terminate the proceedings" was of course mentioned first by Lancashireman.

And according to my research, it is usually an administrative body, a "Verwaltungsbehörde" and not a court that imposes a Straferkenntnis.
Peer comment(s):
agree Kim Metzger
2 hrs
neutral AllegroTrans : Right idea, but not the language of a Court order
10 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "MANY THANKS for all the contributions incl. from Michael. I think this works best."
+1
2 hrs

repeal the ruling

Not sure about "ersatzlos". I've seen "without substitution," but don't think that would work here. Maybe, without compensation?

Ist der der Berufungsbehörde vorliegende Sachverhalt so mangelhaft, daß die Durchführung oder Wiederholung einer mündlichen Verhandlung unvermeidlich erscheint, so kann die Berufungsbehörde den angefochtenen Bescheid beheben und die Angelegenheit zur neuerlichen Verhandlung und Erlassung eines neuen Bescheides an eine im Instanzenzug untergeordnete Behörde zurückverweisen.


If the facts of a case presented to the authority are incomplete to an extent that implementation or a repetition of an oral hearing is deemed unavoidable, the appellate authority may repeal the contested ruling and remand the subject matter to an authority of lower instance for a new hearing and for issue of a new ruling.
Allgemeines Verwaltungsverfahrensgesetz 1991 – AVG
http://www.jusguide.at/index.php?id=88&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=11...



Peer comment(s):
neutral AllegroTrans : You have assumed there is already a ruling but I cannot see that in the text
23 mins
Right, Straferkenntnis is not a ruling. A penalty?
agree Alexander Schleber (X) : "repeal the punitive order" I think may work.
8 hrs
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3 hrs

(fully) desist from

in retrospect

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pressing charges as AT suggests

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so if you have to decide, give AT the credits and suggest that he posts

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and that seems to be the idea... good teamwork

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don't want to poach so ask AT to post ... my desist may have helped but the credits go to AT

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not an easy one and we got thee in the end methinks

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there
Peer comment(s):
neutral AllegroTrans : we're not there yet, we need a bit more of the "story" methinks
50 mins
I'm looking for your legal expertise on this AT ... I have a rough grounding but you have the know so let's get this one nailed down ... and post it when you get it ... will get my agree ... no pressure lol ... just kidding but we need a result here
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18 hrs
German term (edited): das beschwerdegegenständliche Straferkenntnisersatzlos ersatzlos beheben

set aside and quash the administrative penalty

OK, I will weigh in with this suggestion

I give only medium CL in the absence of better context (asker could have given us more of the story)

From what I can deduce these are proceedings in the administrative court that have gone to appeal. UK and US translators are generally very unfamiliar with this tier of the court system in civil law countries, which is separate from the criminal and civil courts. It deals exclusively with matters concerning the exercise of public powers and official acts.

My hunch is that the appeal court has ruled against the lower court's order imposing an administrative penalty or fine.


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Administrative Appeals in Germany - Springer
https://www.springer.com/cda/content/document/cda.../9783642...

of the quite unique fact that five hierarchies of courts, each with its own specific jurisdictions and codes of procedure, have been established in Germany.4 Three of them are specialized in administrative law matters and two in private law matters: The finance courts (Finanzgerichte) have jurisdiction over (federal) tax matters, ...
The Federal Administrative Court - Bundesverwaltungsgericht
https://www.bverwg.de/en/das-gericht

Translate this page
The Federal Administrative Court is the supreme administrative court in the Federal Republic of Germany. It has its seat in Leipzig. The Court rules on disputes in the area of administrative law, unless another court is competent. In most cases the Federal Administrative Court acts as a court of appeal, deciding upon appeals .

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Germany - OECD.org
https://www.oecd.org/germany/2386529.pdf

10 Nov 1998 - It contains, inter alia, the provisions on the liability of legal persons. The sanction for a breach of an administrative regulation is a non-criminal fine. In addition, secondary measures can be ordered, for example the confiscation of certain objects. Bribery of domestic public officials is punishable in Germany by ...
[PDF]DETERMINATION AND APPLICATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE FINES ...
https://www.oecd.org/env/outreach/42356640.pdf

Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Korea, Luxembourg, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand,. Norway ... Monetary penalties (fines) are the most widespread administrative environmental enforcement instrument ... Briefly describes the current use of environmental administrative fines in EECCA;.

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Administrative law - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_law

Jump to Germany - Administrative law in Germany, called "Verwaltungsrecht" de:Verwaltungsrecht (Deutschland), generally rules the relationship between authorities and the citizens and therefore, it establishes citizens' rights and obligations against the authorities. ... Administrative law in Germany follows three basic principles.
‎Government agency · ‎United States administrative law · ‎Canadian administrative law

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What is QUASH?

To overthrow ; to abate; to annul ; to make void. Spelman ; 3 Bl. Comm. 303; Crawford v. Stewart, 38 Pa. 34; Holland v. Webster, 43 Fla. 85, 29 South. 625; Bosley v. Bruner, 2 Cushm. (Miss.) 402.

- Black's Law Dictionary
Peer comment(s):
agree Lancashireman : Allegro ma non troppo
7 hrs
thank you
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2 hrs
German term (edited): das beschwerdegegenständliche Straferkenntnis ersatzlos beheben...

withdraw the charges and terminate proceedings

das beschwerdegegenständliche Straferkenntnis ersatzlos beheben und das Verwaltungsstrafverfahren einstellen > withdraw the charges and terminate proceedings

'Desist' is something else:
"A cease and desist letter is a document sent to an individual or business to stop purportedly illegal activity ("cease") and not to restart it ("desist").
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cease_and_desist


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Of course, it would help to know who or what XX is.

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Alas, it's not charges: https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/law_general/575...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Wendy Streitparth : Withdraw the sentence, maybe
13 hrs
Yes, I was thinking 'sentence' after we discovered the identity of XX (i.e. not a complainant). overturn the sentence would be even better.
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1 day 8 hrs

overturn the fine without referral back/further adjudication

I don't know whether figuring out that somebody requested an administrative court to overturn a penalty from a lower court was the hardest part about this query. What's also intriguing to me is that, based on sources, 'ersatzlos beheben' appears to be Austrian rather than German usage. I immediately thought there might be nuances in play that are not understood outside Austria. Turns out, I can't say I found really big surprises among the definitions, but at the same time, I don't think we have focused enough on what exactly they mean by "ersatzlos" in this context. It seems slightly more narrow than expected...

negative Sachentscheidung“ = („ersatzlose“) Behebung ohne neuerlichen (positiven) Spruch in der Sache der Unterinstanz https://www.jku.at/verwaltungsgerichte/content/e280407/e2805...

Eine Behebung ohne Zurückverweisung - also ersatzlose Behebung - kommt beispielsweise dann in Betracht, wenn eine Verpflichtung ohne Vorliegen der gesetzlichen Voraussetzungen erteilt wird, also eine Entscheidung von Rechts wegen gar nicht hätte getroffen werden sollen; die Aufhebung stellt sich in diesem Fall selbst als eine negative Sachentscheidung gem § 66 Abs 4 AVG dar
http://www.jusguide.at/index.php?id=88&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=63...

https://books.google.com/books?id=LZ-dDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA303&lpg=...

"This delay and legal insecurity is avoided where the Cassation Court quashes without referral back "
https://www.reedsmith.com/en/perspectives/2017/01/accelerate...

"Lawyers for the state will ask the court to dismiss the case without further adjudication." https://acluva.org/en/press-releases/court-hear-arguments-do...


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Reference comments

17 hrs
Reference:

What is a Straferkenntnis

The reference below explains what a Straferkenntnis is.

From my experience the institution XX is being asked to set aside the previous ruling (the Straferkenntnis) and not impose a new Straferkenntnis (penalty) of its own (i.e. ersatzlos). i.e. not simply set aside an order e.g. to pay EUR 1000 and replace it with an order to pay EUR 600. In addition it is being asked to terminate the proceedings.
Reference:

http://at.rechtsinfokollektiv.org/verwaltungsstrafverfahren/straferkenntnis-2/

Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree AllegroTrans : This seems to be right but the asker still needs to tell us what kind of penalty this is (criminal/civil/administrative) - I suspect administrative
10 mins
agree Björn Vrooman : There's no point in asking for criminal or civil if you know what a Verwaltungsstrafverfahren is. I don't know why this was posted as a reference entry and not an answer.
2 hrs
agree Lancashireman : I particularly like "terminate the proceedings" for "das Verwaltungsstrafverfahren einstellen".
8 hrs
agree Kim Metzger : I also vote for this translation posted as an answer.
10 hrs
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