Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Portuguese term or phrase:
Ficar com a fama sem o proveito
English translation:
All of the credit, none of the profit
Added to glossary by
Tania Pires
Feb 1, 2018 17:30
6 yrs ago
Portuguese term
Portugal
EN Translator
Native in: English (Variant: UK) 
, Portuguese (Variant: European/Portugal)
Works in: Portuguese to English, Spanish to English
Ficar com a fama sem o proveito
Portuguese to English
Art/Literary
Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
Subtitles
'Você fica com a fama sem o proveito'
I've seen this translated as 'taking the fall' or 'being a scapegoat', but it doesn't make sense here.
When you say this in Portugal, it means that you may get a reputation for something you didn't do, but you don't have to necessarily be a scapegoat. In this case, she's saying that he'll get a reputation without all the benefits involved.
Is there a BE expression for this?
Thanks in advance for your help!
I've seen this translated as 'taking the fall' or 'being a scapegoat', but it doesn't make sense here.
When you say this in Portugal, it means that you may get a reputation for something you didn't do, but you don't have to necessarily be a scapegoat. In this case, she's saying that he'll get a reputation without all the benefits involved.
Is there a BE expression for this?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | All of the work, none of the credit |
Nuno Rosalino
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| 4 | achieve fame without fortune |
Oliver Simões
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Proposed translations
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Nuno Rosalino
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in Portuguese
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Marketing, Business, Lit. & Localization
Native in: Portuguese 
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese to English, Spanish to Portuguese, and 1 more.
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All of the work, none of the credit
I think you might be forced to work around this commonplace, Tânia, and adapt the structure to reflect the meaning of the original. So, something like: "All of the credit, none of the profit" might work.
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-02-01 19:05:15 GMT)
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Just realized that the credit / profit version can be read as a sort of financial pun, so those exact terms perhaps aren't the best way to go.
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Note added at 1 hr (2018-02-01 19:05:15 GMT)
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Just realized that the credit / profit version can be read as a sort of financial pun, so those exact terms perhaps aren't the best way to go.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Nuno! I actually like 'All of the credit, none of the profit' better than your first option. I think it suits the original meaning. You can say that someone has all of the credit without a financial association. |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Nick Taylor
: All the work, none of the reward
44 mins
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Thank you, Nick!
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| agree |
Gilmar Fernandes
2 hrs
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Thanks, Gilmar :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
4 hrs
Oliver Simões
United States
United States
Native in Portuguese
United States
BA in Transl., MA in ESL, 15 yrs of exp.
Native in: Portuguese
Works in: English to Portuguese, Portuguese to English, Spanish to Portuguese, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
achieve fame without fortune
Not sure that this is used in British English, but it can certainly be understood by any English speaker. This is how I would translate it.
"Did you achieve fame or fortune? Ah, here is the tricky one. As you learned in the first chapter, it is possible to achieve fame without fortune, and vice versa."
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Note added at 4 hrs (2018-02-01 22:06:25 GMT)
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Not sure that it fits the present context, though.
"Did you achieve fame or fortune? Ah, here is the tricky one. As you learned in the first chapter, it is possible to achieve fame without fortune, and vice versa."
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Note added at 4 hrs (2018-02-01 22:06:25 GMT)
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Not sure that it fits the present context, though.
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