Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Jan 21, 2018 16:46
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English term
Aamer
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English to Arabic
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I need this Arabic last name written with full diacritics in Arabic script.
I could only find عامر, but it's lacking the vowels and diacritics.
But I also would like to make sure, that this is a last name = surname only, so nobody would think of it as a first/given name. I know, this is a tough requirement, because all or most names in Arabic can first or last or middle names, based on their positions, when listing the full name of a person. So I'm not sure, whether surname-only names even exist in Arabic. So I need your advice or opinion here. But if there are a few, which are clearly surnames only, then I would like to know those and where/how to find them.
Explanations in English, please, except for Arabic script examples!
Thank you.
I could only find عامر, but it's lacking the vowels and diacritics.
But I also would like to make sure, that this is a last name = surname only, so nobody would think of it as a first/given name. I know, this is a tough requirement, because all or most names in Arabic can first or last or middle names, based on their positions, when listing the full name of a person. So I'm not sure, whether surname-only names even exist in Arabic. So I need your advice or opinion here. But if there are a few, which are clearly surnames only, then I would like to know those and where/how to find them.
Explanations in English, please, except for Arabic script examples!
Thank you.
Proposed translations
(Arabic)
| 5 +1 | عَامِر |
Muhammad Atallah
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| 5 | عَامِرْ It can be last name or first or middle |
mohamed aglan
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Proposed translations
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9 mins
Muhammad Atallah
Egypt
Egypt
Native in Arabic
Works in field
Egypt
Technical accuracy with fluency of style
Native in: Arabic (Variant: Egyptian) 
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, Arabic, and 1 more.
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عَامِر
It can be a first, middle or last name. Surname-only names do not exist in Arabic.
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Note added at 47 mins (2018-01-21 17:33:38 GMT)
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Nice to see you again, too :)
Actually, I didn't write the transliteration because you didn't ask about it in your question. What you can see above is the term you are asking about, which was inserted automatically in my answer.
You are right, /‘aamir/ would be a more accurate transliteration.
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Note added at 47 mins (2018-01-21 17:33:38 GMT)
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Nice to see you again, too :)
Actually, I didn't write the transliteration because you didn't ask about it in your question. What you can see above is the term you are asking about, which was inserted automatically in my answer.
You are right, /‘aamir/ would be a more accurate transliteration.
Note from asker:
| Thank you. That's, what I was afraid of. So I have to accept this fact now. |
| Nice to see you again, Muhammad. As to the pronunciation, you wrote "aamer", but I see a KASRAH = short i there. So I think, that AAMIR would be closer to the actual pronunciation. |
| True, I added my request for transliteration later, because I forgot to include it, when I first posted my question. Thank you for your reply, though. |
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Comment: "Thank you very much."
14 hrs
mohamed aglan
Egypt
Egypt
Native in Arabic
Egypt
Creative Subtitler, certified translator
Native in: Arabic (Variant: Egyptian)
Works in: English to Arabic, Arabic to English, French to Arabic, and 1 more.
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16
عَامِرْ It can be last name or first or middle
This is the name in Arabic It can be first name or last or middle "عَامِرْ
Discussion
Firstly, first names and middle names are one category, so the surname-only name can't be a middle name.
Secondly, "AL" ['al] means "THE" (Al-Jbouri means The Jbouri), and "Al" with long "a" sound ['aal] means "Kinsfolk, Family" (Al-Saud "Saud Kinsfolk"), they both precede surnames, and in very rare cases, "Al" [al] (THE) precede first names (bun not middle names).
Thirdly, if you use "Aljbouri, Almasri, Almouselli, Alhallaq" without "AL", they can still be used as surnames in rare cases "Mouselli, Hallaq", but not as first or middle names. (Tribe, Profession or craft, geographical location are surnames-only.)
Arabic surnames have a lot of rules and patterns. In Egypt for example, you may find a lot of people whose surnames are ['aamir] or ['ahmed], while in Syria and Lebanon, it is very rare to find that. Usually, surnames are derived from tribes names in tribal communities like Saudi Arabia, Oman, Iraq, Palestine and parts of Syria ([aljbouri] "someone from Al-Jobour tribe"), cities and countries names in Egypt, Lebanon, Iraq and Syria (['almasri] "The Egyptian", [almouselli] "The Mosulian"), and professions names in most of the Arab world ([alhallaq] "The barber").
The above-mentioned examples can't be used as first or middle names. However, first and middle names can be used as surnames in many cases.