Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Japanese term or phrase:
山おとし
English translation:
indented downlight cutting
Added to glossary by
StanleyTanaka
Jan 9, 2018 06:32
6 yrs ago
Japanese term
Technical, medical, manuals, music, etc.
Native in: Bulgarian
Works in: Japanese to Bulgarian, Bulgarian to Japanese, Japanese to English, and 3 more.
山おとし
Japanese to English
Tech/Engineering
Materials (Plastics, Ceramics, etc.)
Drilling, metal processing
ドリルドライバーに装着するだけで丸穴あけが簡単、穴あけと同時に山おとしもできます。
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | indented downlight cutting |
Hyeyoung Park
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| 2 | protruding part cut-off |
cinefil
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| 2 | building an indent on a protruding surface |
Port City
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Proposed translations
+1
20 hrs
Hyeyoung Park
South Korea
South Korea
Native in English
South Korea
Native English - SDL Trados 19 - Xbench
Native in: English 
, Korean
Works in: Korean to English, Japanese to English, Chinese to English
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indented downlight cutting
。。。穴あけと同時に山おとしもできます。
...while simultaneously enabling hole drilling and indented downlight cutting
I think Port City's answer provides some helpful clues. However, if you look at the reference documents provided by me and cinefil, there doesn't appear to be any protrusions at all. An indent is built for the cut out hole. I was initially thinking mountain-shaped because the right-angled blade attachment (山おとし刃) could be used to create a sort of a tapered effect. However, after more consideration, I think this should be translated "indented downlight cutting."
See the Note in Step 5 on page 2 of this document:
https://uk.eaton.com/content/dam/uk/products/life-safety-and...
A close-up of the cut is shown in this document:
http://image.orange-book.com/orange_construction_pdf/2018-01...
...while simultaneously enabling hole drilling and indented downlight cutting
I think Port City's answer provides some helpful clues. However, if you look at the reference documents provided by me and cinefil, there doesn't appear to be any protrusions at all. An indent is built for the cut out hole. I was initially thinking mountain-shaped because the right-angled blade attachment (山おとし刃) could be used to create a sort of a tapered effect. However, after more consideration, I think this should be translated "indented downlight cutting."
See the Note in Step 5 on page 2 of this document:
https://uk.eaton.com/content/dam/uk/products/life-safety-and...
A close-up of the cut is shown in this document:
http://image.orange-book.com/orange_construction_pdf/2018-01...
Reference:
https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/working-pro/item/ez9sxb02/?l-id=rgm_item_en_rvp_widget
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks"
18 hrs
protruding part cut-off
ここでの「山」は、突出部・凸部のことでは？
16 hrs
building an indent on a protruding surface
山おとし seems to mean smoothing out a decorative protruding surface to build an indent for the flange. You may come up with a better expression to covey the same thing.
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Note added at 19 hrs (2018-01-10 02:31:21 GMT)
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"Smoothing out the surface for the flange" might do.
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Note added at 19 hrs (2018-01-10 02:31:21 GMT)
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"Smoothing out the surface for the flange" might do.
Reference comments
41 mins
Reference:
FYR
http://www.dogudoraku.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_...
https://adwecs.jp/w/item/itemPdf_80037_1.pdf
https://adwecs.jp/w/item/itemPdf_80037_1.pdf
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
DPurohit (X)
24 mins
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Thank you.
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Marc Brunet
: great references bringing us down to earth from such a poetic term...:-)
1 day 17 hrs
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Thank you.
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Discussion
This link uses both "indented downlight" and "trimless downlight" in its description (also zoom-in on page 2 of the embedded document):
https://issuu.com/brilumen/docs/flyer_monet
This link uses "flush-mounted downlight":
https://www.lights.co.uk/fio-powerful-led-downlight-16-w.htm...
This down to earth visual analogy makes perfect sense : the long drill bit securing a central anchoring before the 2 side cutters of equal lengths enter into a torque action balancing their effects on the material cut.
One suggestion perhaps:
How about "flush-mounted", rather than 'indented'?