Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

le tout minéral

English translation:

completely/all/totally hard landscaping

Added to glossary by B D Finch
Feb 14, 2017 14:46
7 yrs ago
French term

le tout minéral

French to English Social Sciences Construction / Civil Engineering Urban planning
This term is in a magazine overview of major public projects in a large French city:

"Le quartier vient repenser l’urbanisme, en rupture avec le **tout minéral** des quartiers tertiaires classiques : un quartier à vivre, végétalisé et animé, sort de terre en son hyper-centre."

Minéral is obviously in opposition to having more vegetation, but not sure how best to express that. All-concrete doesn't sound quite right, maybe something all the lines of too much/excessive paving? Overly paved? Concrete style/landscape? Devoid of nature? I can't quite put my finger on this one.

Would appreciate any suggestions!

UK English here.
Change log

Feb 16, 2017 10:55: B D Finch Created KOG entry

Discussion

Diana Huet de Guerville (asker) Feb 14, 2017:
Thanks for these suggestions. @Nikki this is actually from a summary article, so the rest of the text is not directly related, it just describes various urban planning projects in the city. But you've all given me a lot to go on, thanks!
B D Finch Feb 14, 2017:
@Nikki Try googling it with google.fr set to "français" and with "urbanisme", not "architecture" and you should get plenty of ghits.
B D Finch Feb 14, 2017:
Sociology or town planning? As this is about town planning, not social studies, terms such as "concrete jungle", evocative as they are, are not really suitable. When submitting a planning application in the UK, you need to submit hard and soft landscaping plans.

As an example of the problems of balancing hard and soft landscaping, our town council recently improved our post-mod-meets-brutalist cultural centre by installing a green facade. However, a few months later, they concreted over a lawn in front of the building to make a skateboard park. The overall balance of soft and hard landscape has shifted slightly towards hard and the noise levels are (at times) much higher, though not as high as they'd be without the green facade. However, in terms of surface water drainage, the vertical soft landscaping does not in any way compensate for the increased horizontal, impermeable hard landscaping.
Nikki Scott-Despaigne Feb 14, 2017:
Iv'e googled "tout minéral" with "architecture" and it gets a number of various hits, of varying types, but a fair number of this type : http://www.info-chalon.com/articles/saint-remy/2016/05/07/21... Your ST, the idea is to break away from "le tout minéral des quartiers tertiaires classiques". I think you have a little bit of leeway as to how you can render this. It is about doing away with the all-stone and concrete block type environment. I mean, depending on the sort of choices you have made in the surrounding text, it is difficult to make helpful suggestions.
polyglot45 Feb 14, 2017:
I would be tempted to say bricks and mortar
Elizabeth Slaney Feb 14, 2017:
Concrete sprawl? To get the ball rolling....

Proposed translations

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completely/all/totally hard landscaping

In English we refer to hard landscaping and soft landscaping. The former includes e.g. areas of concrete, stone, asphalt, fountains and walls and the latter includes trees flower beds, planted areas and lawns.

www.norrisandgardiner.co.uk › ServicesSoft Landscaping. Softening the landscape is the job of plants, from turf to towering trees from minimal planting schemes consisting of a single specimen to massed planting in vast swathes of colour, the options are boundless.

www.norrisandgardiner.co.uk › ServicesHard Landscaping From paving to pergolas, fountains to fencing, hard landscape features are what gives the landscape form and structure on which the softer ...

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www.bathnes.gov.uk/.../BackGround Papers-450960.pdf?...disc... of the planning condition 6 related to the soft landscaping. Condition 6. "No development shall be commenced until a hard and soft landscape scheme ...

www.wrexham.gov.uk/english/planning_portal/lpg_notes/lpg07.... Planning Guidance Notes No 7 - Landscape and Development ... Existing trees and other soft landscape features to be retained, and methods of ... Details of all existing and proposed hard landscape materials, and their location ...

www.salbris.com/plu2013/Rapport_de_Presentation.pdfRéduire les risques sanitaires liés aux plantes invasives. Le PLU de Salbris considère ..... tesque île de verdure au cœur d'un océan de cultures, entre Beauce et. Champagne Berrichonne. ...... agréable et d'éviter le tout minéral.

Note from asker:
This is perfect, thank you!
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : Just "hard landscaping" would do. And concrete jungle is a good suggestion too.
20 mins
Thanks phil. Town planners probably do use the term "concrete jungle" as a criticism of a total absence of soft-landscaping, but the technical term required here is "hard-landscaping". Le tout minéral is all hard landscaping (some is always needed)
agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : Aaah, this makes sense. Thank you!
46 mins
Thanks Nikki
agree Tony M
6 hrs
Thanks Tony
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12 mins

all-mineral surroundings

in contrast with the all-mineral surroundings, or "entirely mineral surroundings"
Peer comment(s):

neutral B D Finch : "Mineral" isn't used that way in English.
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