Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Indonesian term or phrase:
para ulama, para kiai, para habaib, para uztad
English translation:
scholars, religious seniors/kiais, habibs, teachers
Indonesian term
para ulama, para kiai, para habaib, para uztad
I am translating a speech from Indonesian into Portuguese, but as I doubt there are translators working with this language combination I decided to ask the equivalent of the terms in question in English (US/UK).
Context:
Terima kasih, kami sampaikan kepada para ulama, para kiai, para habaib, para uztad yang telah memimpin umatnya yang menyejukkan sehingga sampai Maghrib tadi berjalan dengan tertib dan damai.
Terima kasih atas bantuannya!
3 +2 | scholars, religious seniors/kiais, habibs, teachers | fird_77 |
5 +1 | ulemas, kiai, habibs, and uztads | Lukman Hakim |
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Proposed translations
scholars, religious seniors/kiais, habibs, teachers
b) kiai is almost impossible to translate into English. There's no equivalent of it in English. Kiai is used as a form of address to someone being an Islamic teacher/guide/ in a pesantren or who has/leads a pesantren. It comes from "Ki" in ancient Javanese, as far as I know.
c) habaib is the plural of "habib" meaning "beloved". It is a title/address of someone being a descendant of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. So it needn't be translated.
d) ustad is usually refered to a common Islamic teacher in madrasah, masjid, or halaqah (circle of Islamic learnings) in Indonesia. in certain Arab countries, it means a "professor", a senior lecture in Islamic universities.
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Edward Thornton
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You're welcome, Mr. Thornton.
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Jody McKean
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Terima kasih, Bung Padila.
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ulemas, kiai, habibs, and uztads
- Ulama can be translated as 'Ulema', since its plural, it should be 'Ulemas. The meaning of Ulemas is similar everywhere. This is the only one easily translated.
- Kiai is a term very specific to Javanese. They are male religious leaders, and owners of religious schools.
- Habaib is a plural to 'Habib', which is used in Indonesia for descendants of prophet Muhammad. However, in other country, it is more common for Habib to means someone that can cure like a doctor or herbalist.
- Uztad, means someone who is proficient in Islamic teaching. However, in middle east, it could mean a teacher in any field, not specific to religion.
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ErichEko ⟹⭐
: Karena distinctively Islamic, tapi calon pembacanya orang Portugis, ada baiknya diterjemahkan dg/ kurung: We express our gratitude to all ulema (Islamic scholar), kiai (religious elder and madrassa head), habib (Islamic healer), ...
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Jody McKean
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Also, I would like to invite the colleagues to vote for the reclassification of this question if you understand that it should be a PRO question.