Sep 5, 2016 16:16
7 yrs ago
German term
Austria
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 3 more.
Geschlossenheit zeigen
German to English
Tech/Engineering
Architecture
Die flexibel bearbeitbare Beschaffenheit von des Fassadensystems XX wird den unterschiedlichen Ansprüchen einer Fassade gerecht:
Wo sie Geschlossenheit zeigt ebenso wie dort, wo sie für die Belichtung und Belüftung des Gebäudes zu Lamellen geformt wurde.
Vielen Dank!
Wo sie Geschlossenheit zeigt ebenso wie dort, wo sie für die Belichtung und Belüftung des Gebäudes zu Lamellen geformt wurde.
Vielen Dank!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | has a uniform character |
Paul Cohen
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| 3 +2 | provides/demonstrates solidity |
Ramey Rieger (X)
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| 4 +1 | closed coverage type (geschlossene Bauweise) as opposed to |
Ellen Kraus
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| 4 +1 | demonstrates compactness |
Johannes Gleim
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| 3 +1 | give off a unified appearance |
Michael Martin, MA
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| 3 | where it is of a contiguous nature |
gangels (X)
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Proposed translations
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1 day 3 hrs
Paul Cohen
Greenland
Greenland
Native in English
Works in field
Greenland
Will work for blubber
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, French to English, Danish to English
Related KudoZ points
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71
Selected
has a uniform character
Where it has a uniform character as well as where it is shaped by slats for lighting and ventilation.
I agree with Björn that this is most probably a “closed facade” in a “visual” sense, in other words, a uniform facade (in contrast to areas where the facade is broken up by elements such as slats for lighting and ventilation).
I agree with Björn that this is most probably a “closed facade” in a “visual” sense, in other words, a uniform facade (in contrast to areas where the facade is broken up by elements such as slats for lighting and ventilation).
Peer comment(s):
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Björn Vrooman
: Thanks, Paul, for posting your suggestion as an answer. Despite the somewhat imperfect source text, I don't really see how this could refer to anything else than optics (similar to "in sich geschlossen(es) Bild" or "harmonious appearance").
3 hrs
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And thanks for doing so much research, Björn.
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| agree |
Kim Metzger
4 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "vielen Dank!"
+2
24 mins
provides/demonstrates solidity
Demonstrating solidity....
I just can't shake the feeling that there is great deal missing in the German text. Not exactly worng, just insubstantial.
I just can't shake the feeling that there is great deal missing in the German text. Not exactly worng, just insubstantial.
Example sentence:
The highly adpatable nature of XXX facade systems covers the varying functions a facade should serve..demonstrating solidity, were solidity is called for and forming ???, introducing light and air.
Peer comment(s):
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Armorel Young
: That's the idea - both where it provides solidity and where it is slatted for purposes of lighting and ventilation
14 hrs
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I first assumed it was more of a marketing text. Ah, but would context be mandatory! Enjoy the sun, Armorel.
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Kim Metzger
20 hrs
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Mercí, Kim.
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+1
28 mins
Michael Martin, MA
United States
United States
Native in German
&
English
United States
Creativity wins in the long run
Native in: German (Variant: Germany) 
, English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
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24
give off a unified appearance
My take
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Note added at 31 mins (2016-09-05 16:48:01 GMT)
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Nothing missing here. Standard way of expressing the concept.
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Note added at 31 mins (2016-09-05 16:48:01 GMT)
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Nothing missing here. Standard way of expressing the concept.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
ebobilov
49 mins
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Thanks, ebobilov.
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Paul Cohen
: Michael, I have a hunch it means a 'uniform' appearance (not a 'unified' one) broken up occasionally by slats for lighting and ventilation. And instead of 'give off' I would say it 'has' an appearance. / It depends on what you're looking for in a facade.
3 hrs
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Could be right. Still, not sure that’s a quality worth touting. Isn’t that a bit like praising a plate for being round?
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+1
56 mins
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Native in German
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
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2
closed coverage type (geschlossene Bauweise) as opposed to
cut and cover technique (offene Bauweis)
evtl. auch "closed construction method"
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Note added at 1 Stunde (2016-09-05 17:17:11 GMT)
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tureng.com/de/deutsch-englisch/coverage
Meanings of "coverage" in German English Dictionary : 70 result(s) .... 61, Construction, closed coverage type · geschlossene Bauweise.
evtl. auch "closed construction method"
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Note added at 1 Stunde (2016-09-05 17:17:11 GMT)
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tureng.com/de/deutsch-englisch/coverage
Meanings of "coverage" in German English Dictionary : 70 result(s) .... 61, Construction, closed coverage type · geschlossene Bauweise.
+1
4 hrs
Johannes Gleim
Native in German
Works in field
40 years Engineer, 20 years translations
Native in: German
Works in: English to German, German to English, French to German, and 6 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
51
demonstrates compactness
Geschlossenheit f 1. compactness (Bauweise), 2. self-containedness (einer Wohnung), 3. unity (Darstellung)
(Gelbrich, Fachwörterbuch Architektur und Bauwesen)
(Gelbrich, Fachwörterbuch Architektur und Bauwesen)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
BrigitteHilgner
: http://translate.deacademic.com/Unity/de/xx/5/
9 hrs
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Danke!
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1 day 1 hr
where it is of a contiguous nature
i.e. without breaks or interruptions
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Armorel Young
: Are you confusing contiguous and continuous? Contiguous means sharing a common border or touching, so different sections could be contiguous but a single thing can't be.
1 day 3 hrs
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Discussion
https://books.google.de/books?id=Y6Eru7hQJckC&pg=PA192&lpg=P...
Auch wenn der Ausgangstext wahrlich kein Meisterstück ist, ist zu erkennen, dass es sich eher um "geschlossene Fassade" im optischen Sinne handelt.
"Patentierte Montageclips: Eine Ausführung für offene Fassaden. Eine für optisch geschlossene Fassaden."
https://www.mocopinus.com/de/produktwelt/fassade/system-pinu...
"Eine geschlossene Fassade ist ein mutiges Statement: Hauseigentümer bekennen sich damit klar zu einer modern-minimalistischen Formsprache."
https://www.homify.de/ideenbuecher/320438/6-ideen-fuer-eine-...
Es geht hier um eine "einheitliche" Fassade. Das hat mit "compactness" so viel zu tun wie Elefanten mit Walrossen - beide Tierarten sind grau und schwer, das wars dann aber auch.
PS: Die bisher mMn treffendste Lösung - die von Paul - ist nicht unter den Antworten.
Die sicherste Variante ist demnach immer noch einsprachige Wörterbücher und Glossare zu verwenden, so wie das entsprechende Fachwissen zu besitzen (oder sich anzueignen).
Das Thema hier ist genauso ein Fall. Eine "geschlossene Bauweise" meint Folgendes:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geschlossene_Bauweise_(Baurech...
Das ist hier wohl kaum geeignet, da es sich nicht um eine Grundstücksanordnung handelt.
Eine geschlossene Fassade hat ebenfalls mehr als eine Bedeutung. Im optischen Sinne und im Sinne von "keine Öffnungen"...
Den Gelbrich kann ich übriges nur empfehlen. Wenn man viel mit Architektur und Bauwesen zu tun hat, macht er sich durch Zeitersparnis und Treffsicherheit schnell bezahlt.