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Jun 29, 2016 07:15
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English term
self-infliction
English to French
Art/Literary
Law: Contract(s)
Bonjour,
Dans le passage suivant, je ne vois pas comment traduire « self-infliction » :
« All of the warranties above only apply if a breach of the warranty is not due in whole or in part to inability to provide service to Customer which are attributable to events of Force Majeure as described herein, or to acts or omissions by Customer or its staff/ officers/ agents/ contractors which are in contravention of this Agreement (e.g. deliberate self-infliction (including deliberate downloading of viruses), or to the acts or omissions of any third parties. »
Merci à l'avance pour votre aide !
Dans le passage suivant, je ne vois pas comment traduire « self-infliction » :
« All of the warranties above only apply if a breach of the warranty is not due in whole or in part to inability to provide service to Customer which are attributable to events of Force Majeure as described herein, or to acts or omissions by Customer or its staff/ officers/ agents/ contractors which are in contravention of this Agreement (e.g. deliberate self-infliction (including deliberate downloading of viruses), or to the acts or omissions of any third parties. »
Merci à l'avance pour votre aide !
Proposed translations
(French)
| 5 +1 | dommage causé à soi-même |
oliviervs
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| 4 | en cas d'actes ou d'omissions intentionnels |
FX Fraipont (X)
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| 4 -2 | dommages délibérément auto-infligés |
Daryo
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| 3 -1 | (dommages) auto-imposés |
AllegroTrans
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Proposed translations
4 mins
en cas d'actes ou d'omissions intentionnels
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Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Germaine
: dommage intentionnel/volontaire... (les actes et omissions sont déjà le sujet)
11 hrs
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| disagree |
Daryo
: correct, but that's another part of the sentence, not the term to translate as used in this ST, which is THE WHOLE OF "deliberate self-infliction"
23 hrs
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"intentionnel" is the term to translate - I just rephrased.
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AllegroTrans
: "intentional" doesn't mean self-inflicted
4 days
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I think it does here : deliberately downloading viruses to infect computers (context) - does not mean literally shooting yourself in the foot...
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6 hrs
dommage causé à soi-même
Voyez les nombreuses références sur la toile
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
GILLES MEUNIER
12 mins
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Germaine
: En français, on dit "blessure volontaire" ou, selon le cas, "sévices/violences auto-infligé(e)s". Mais ce n'est pas ce dont on parle ici: dommage délibéré au matériel sous garantie.
4 hrs
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Un dommage peut être matériel ou corporel.
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| agree |
Daryo
: that's the idea
17 hrs
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23 hrs
English term (edited):
deliberate self-infliction [of damages to your own system]
dommages délibérément auto-infligés
it's about the Customer inflicting on itself various problems
"including deliberate downloading of viruses" = if you shoot yourself in the foot, you can't blame us because you can't walk
IOW
if you cripple your own equipment, for example, by deliberately downloading viruses, don't hold us responsible for the consequences like the lost of connection speed.
"including deliberate downloading of viruses" = if you shoot yourself in the foot, you can't blame us because you can't walk
IOW
if you cripple your own equipment, for example, by deliberately downloading viruses, don't hold us responsible for the consequences like the lost of connection speed.
Peer comment(s):
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FX Fraipont (X)
: "délibérément auto-infligé"? What kind of French is that? + this is horribly tautological
5 mins
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tautological? "délibérément" à la différence de "dommages auto-infligés" par accident? // pour ce type de textes la précision vient en première, deuxième, troisième ... places . quant à la beauté du style.., ça compte vraiment en cas de litige?
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Germaine
: "infliger" ne s'emploie qu'à l'égard d'une personne; "auto-infligés" = infligés à soi; ici, on parle des dommages causés (volontairement) au matériel garanti !
32 days
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4 days
AllegroTrans
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Related KudoZ points
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378
(dommages) auto-imposés
No suitable noun in FR
best to use adjectival form
best to use adjectival form
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Germaine
: = dommages que l'on s'oblige à subir ou à faire (!). Le terme "self-inflicted" est mal choisi au départ; la traduction doit s'attarder à l'esprit plutôt qu'à la lettre: on parle de bris de garantie par dommages intentionnels.
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Discussion
Warranties only apply if a breach of the warranty is not due... to acts or omissions by Customer... (e.g. deliberate self-infliction (including deliberate downloading of viruses)...
On parle des garanties matériel et main-d'oeuvre! Il est évident qu'on vise ici les dommages intentionnels, "soi-même" n'étant pas plus sous garantie que les "dommages causés à soi-même", "auto-imposés" ou "auto-infligés".