Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

article XX ss

English translation:

article XX et seq

Added to glossary by Thomas T. Frost
Mar 7, 2016 14:39
8 yrs ago
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French term

article XX ss

French to English Law/Patents Law (general)
I have a feeling this is really obvious but I just cannot see what 'ss' means in this context:

'...conformément aux articles 5a ss, 7, 9, alinéa 1 de l'ordonnance sur les médicaments...'

It is from a document from the Swiss authorities to a pharmaceutical company regarding marketing authorisation.

Thanks!
Proposed translations (English)
4 +5 article XX et seq
Change log

Mar 21, 2016 13:03: Thomas T. Frost Created KOG entry

Discussion

Charles Davis Jun 15, 2016:
I don't think you can change the default; I haven't seen anything that would enable the user to customise the page like that. Perhaps there is some way it could be done, but if so I don't know what it is. As I say, I preferred it the way it was before, but I've resigned myself to changing to old term search every time I open the page.
Robert in Pisa Jun 15, 2016:
Many thanks, Charles, I've noticed that too about Google.
Sorry, but my question was badly put. I'm really only interested in going straight to "old Proz.com term search", always (unless I have a short abbreviation to search for). As it is, I often find myself in "new" without realizing it, make a search, realize it, and click back to "old". I know it's only a mouse click and a couple of wasted seconds at most but if there were some way to make "old" the default again I would be grateful to hear about it.
Cheers
Charles Davis Jun 15, 2016:
Robert Yes, you can. Until quite recently, the old term search was the default setting; now, as you say, you get the new term search when you open the Term Search page. But the button with a lilac background that used to say "Try the new Proz.com term search", in red letters, now says "Go back to the old term search", and if you click it, that's what happens.

This is what I routinely do myself. As you say, the new search is good for very short strings, but otherwise I find it unsatisfactory. I never did like it much, and it seems to have got worse. It misses a lot of relevant entries; when I do a search in "new" and then repeat it in "old", the latter usually gives me more results, sometimes a lot more. But actually, a Google search for the term in quotes plus something like "proz.com" is sometimes better than either; it seems to find Kudoz questions that the site search misses.
Robert in Pisa Jun 15, 2016:
Charles, do you know if it's possible to specify "old Proz.com term search" somehow as a preference (or "new" for that matter)? Firefox crashes frequently for me but when it restores I often get sent to "new", whereas I prefer to continue to work with "old" for the moment (except for short abbreviations, as you so helpfully pointed out).
Claire Knell (asker) Mar 7, 2016:
Thank you Charles! Very helpful. I didn't know this.
Charles Davis Mar 7, 2016:
Glossary search Claire: the old ProZ.com term search won't let you look for a string with fewer than three characters, but the new one will. There's a button near the top of the term search page with a lilac background that says "Try the new ProZ.com term search" or "Go back to the old term search", according to where you are. Click on that and you can search for things like "ss".
writeaway Mar 7, 2016:
Your source text seems to be in the plural (articles)
philgoddard Mar 7, 2016:
Is it the ordonnance of 17 October 2001? If so, it has articles 7 and 9. I assume the "ss" refers to articles 5a, 5b, 5c and 5d. And the comma is because it's an item in a list.
Claire Knell (asker) Mar 7, 2016:
And looking at section 5a of this ordonnance I cannot see any sections 7 and 9...
Claire Knell (asker) Mar 7, 2016:
Thought it might be this, but then why the comma afterwards?
Chakib Roula Mar 7, 2016:
sections!!!!

Proposed translations

+5
10 mins
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article XX et seq

"ss" means "sequentia" or "sequentes", i.e. "following".

You can also write "ff." instead of "et seq".
Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway : been asked a number of times on Fr-En kudoz as well. even recently afaik
4 mins
Thanks. Yes. It isn't that difficult to look up.
agree philgoddard
10 mins
Thanks
agree AllegroTrans
1 hr
Thanks
agree Rachel Fell
3 hrs
Thanks
agree Charles Davis
3 hrs
Thanks
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Reference comments

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Reference:

previously on Fr-En Kudoz

Note from asker:
Thank you for the links! If ever I search for a word or abbreviation with less than 3 letters in the ProZ glossary I get a red 'something went wrong...' error message. I don't know why this happens but it means that I couldn't find these entries. I wish I knew the solution to this. I did check the glossary beforehand; always do! :)
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : It is true that the search tool does not enable two character searches. You can get round it by adding another relevant word, "article" might ahve worked here, for example. ;-)
18 hrs
according to Charles Davis, the NEW search tool does allow it. Maybe I used that -without realising it.
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