Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

retorica scomoda

English translation:

high-flown rhetoric

Added to glossary by philgoddard
Aug 31, 2015 17:39
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Italian term

retorica scomoda

Italian to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature economic and cultural his
Is the best translation for 'scomodo' here simply 'awkward' or might the sense be more along the lines of 'clumsy' or 'cumbersome'? Thanks.

Context - introduction to a book describing the life and achievements of an Italian scientist.

Pensate alla quadricromia delle teste in ascolto di una vita imprevedibile come le avventure del barone di Münchhausen e certamente più vera di quella di un qualunque flâneur nel suo Grand Tour. Niente letteratura o *retorica scomoda* per definire i confini della biografia di Arturo Malignani.È la vita di un uomo che non voleva essere un eroe: soltanto un gran lavoratore...
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Sep 8, 2015 16:28: philgoddard Created KOG entry

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Proposed translations

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high-flown rhetoric

Or extravagant, elaborate, flowery, lofty, overblown, overwrought, or grandiloquent.

I think the idea is indeed "awkward" or "cumbersome", but these don't sound very natural to me. They're saying that fancy rhetoric is inappropriate to describe his life.
Note from asker:
I think you've hit the nail on the head, Phil. Yes, this makes sense. Thanks.
Peer comment(s):

agree Lisa Jane : fancy rhetoric seems to sum it up...in opposition to someone who does little and then boasts about it, the scientist in question did much but was humble
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you Phil,. Thanks too to Lisa Jane ( I like your 'fancy rhetoric')"
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uncomfortable rhetoric

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inconvenient rhetoric

my take.
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clumsy rhetoric

I have very often come across the use of "clumsy" in reference to elements of language. Therefore I would confidently go with this.

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"The House opted to persist with this contentious claim, but when it was presented before the Lords on 8 May, Sir Dudley Digges’s CLUMSY RHETORIC seemed to imply that Buckingham had deliberately hastened the old king’s death, possibly even with Charles’s agreement."
http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1604-1629/me...
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