Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Ohne Ansatz
English translation:
unbudgeted (for service charges)
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Adrian MM. (X)
Feb 13, 2015 21:19
9 yrs ago
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German term
Ohne Ansatz
German to English
Law/Patents
Law: Contract(s)
Lease Agreement
While "Ansatz" already has many glossary entries, I'm not 100% if any actually apply to this context, and I have absolutely NO idea as to what it might mean in this context. I haven't found any German sites that might shed light on the meaning. It is part of a list that specifies the areas to be leased in a commercial lease agreement. There is no mention of price/rate in this part of the agreement. This word is not used anywhere else in the contract. Can someone please enlighten me as to what it might mean?
Verkaufsraum (EG) mit einer Fläche vonca. ................ m²
Lagerräume (EG, Keller) mit einer Fläche vonca. ................ m²
Nebenräume (EG, Keller) mit einer Fläche vonca. ................ m²
Technikraum (EG, Keller), ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²)
Fläche zur Aufstellung von Technik,ohne Ansatz (ca. ................ m²)
Stellfläche für Motorroller ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²)
Anlieferungszone, ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²)
Müllbereich/Müllraum, ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²
Fassadenfläche zur Abluftführung (Alternativ Plasmanorm),ohne Ansatz(ca................. m²
Gesamt ca. ................ m²
Verkaufsraum (EG) mit einer Fläche vonca. ................ m²
Lagerräume (EG, Keller) mit einer Fläche vonca. ................ m²
Nebenräume (EG, Keller) mit einer Fläche vonca. ................ m²
Technikraum (EG, Keller), ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²)
Fläche zur Aufstellung von Technik,ohne Ansatz (ca. ................ m²)
Stellfläche für Motorroller ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²)
Anlieferungszone, ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²)
Müllbereich/Müllraum, ohne Ansatz (ca................. m²
Fassadenfläche zur Abluftführung (Alternativ Plasmanorm),ohne Ansatz(ca................. m²
Gesamt ca. ................ m²
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | no budget allocation (of payment on a/c of service charges) |
Adrian MM. (X)
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| 2 | without ancillary spaces |
British Diana
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References
| entry, access area |
Linguaphil
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| Ansatz |
Johanna Timm, PhD
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Change log
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Proposed translations
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German term (edited):
Ohne Ansatz (von Vorauszahlung)
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no budget allocation (of payment on a/c of service charges)
Note the clue: the term is always followed by brackets in the quote.
Doesn't matter that no price or rate is mentioned in that part of the Lease, since no value is assigned.
Doesn't matter that no price or rate is mentioned in that part of the Lease, since no value is assigned.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Linguaphil
: this sounds logical ...
1 day 13 hrs
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Merci vielmals! It does look like an accounting term, whilst 'unestimated' would be incongruous with the measurements that follow.
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without ancillary spaces
Little more than a guess, I'm afraid.
I'm thinking of the 23rd meaning of "ansetzen" in my source: anlehnen. This would ´mean that the "Fläche" in question has been measured without the slopes leaning up to it or the structures supporting it, etc.
I'm thinking of the 23rd meaning of "ansetzen" in my source: anlehnen. This would ´mean that the "Fläche" in question has been measured without the slopes leaning up to it or the structures supporting it, etc.
Reference comments
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Linguaphil
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Reference:
entry, access area
entry can also mean Ansatz, it seems ... maybe this helps, even though I have never heard it used that way in my entire German life before ...
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Reference:
Ansatz
ohne ANSATZ=bleiben außer Ansatz = zählen[…] nicht mit
S. 3 hier
http://gangolfs-seite.de/BEW_PPS/09_Wohnflaeche_II_BV.pdf
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/law_general/2200...
S. 3 hier
http://gangolfs-seite.de/BEW_PPS/09_Wohnflaeche_II_BV.pdf
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/law_general/2200...
Discussion
http://www.azv-pfattertal.de/faq.html
http://www.viernheim.de/index.php?id=2565&type=98
http://www.mietflaechenermittlung.de/mf_wohnen.htm
A translation might be "without charge" or "not counted"; however, I am not familiar with any possibly established applicable technical terms or language.