Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
\"Papierauflagen\"
English translation:
paper lining/overlay
Added to glossary by
Alex Green (X)
Nov 19, 2014 18:15
9 yrs ago
German term
"Papierauflagen"
German to English
Art/Literary
Architecture
Swiss Architecture
Hi all,
Once again I've hit a wall in my research. This sentence is referring to a parish church in Switzerland and I'm not sure what "Papierauflagen" is referring to, much less how to phrase it in English! The sentence is as follows:
"Am Hauptportal monumental gestaltete hölzerne Kirchentür mit Architekturgliederung und Papierauflagen datiert 1647"
If anybody familiar with the term could shed a little light, I'd be very grateful - thank you!
Once again I've hit a wall in my research. This sentence is referring to a parish church in Switzerland and I'm not sure what "Papierauflagen" is referring to, much less how to phrase it in English! The sentence is as follows:
"Am Hauptportal monumental gestaltete hölzerne Kirchentür mit Architekturgliederung und Papierauflagen datiert 1647"
If anybody familiar with the term could shed a little light, I'd be very grateful - thank you!
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +2 | paper lining/overlay | Helen Shiner |
3 | Paper scrolling | Andrew Bramhall |
2 | papier-mâché | Wendy Streitparth |
References
More context | philgoddard |
Change log
Aug 17, 2017 18:58: Helen Shiner changed "Field" from "Tech/Engineering" to "Art/Literary"
Proposed translations
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Selected
paper lining/overlay
See Auflage (furniture/construction): lining - http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/lining.html
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I would ask to see an image of the doors or request an explanation from the client to be sure.
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It is worth pointing out that the paper lining may not be coeval with the door and other furnishings. The text does not say.
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I would ask to see an image of the doors or request an explanation from the client to be sure.
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It is worth pointing out that the paper lining may not be coeval with the door and other furnishings. The text does not say.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Helen! I've also just had to look up "coeval" - I can't believe I've never come across that word before... |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
philgoddard
: This is a possibility, but I can't imagine what its purpose would be. //OK, I now think this is probably correct :-)
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Many caskets and drawers had such lining too. May be for purposes of imagery or ease of painting./Most kind. Thanks to orla for the evidence.
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agree |
oa_xxx (X)
18 hrs
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Thanks, orla, though the points should be yours after that find!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you very much, Helen! Incredibly helpful resources and suggestions, as ever."
10 mins
Paper scrolling
of announcements pinned to the church door?
http://www.seton.de/D96534000/Papierauflagen-fuer-Untersuchu...
http://artpropelled.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/scroll-scrolling-...
http://www.seton.de/D96534000/Papierauflagen-fuer-Untersuchu...
http://artpropelled.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/scroll-scrolling-...
Note from asker:
That was my first guess too, actually - the link Orla posted is very convincing though. Thank you anyway! |
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Helen Shiner
: Nothing to suggest 'scrolling'./Its absence is a key clue.
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Nothing to suggest it isn't, by the same token;
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23 mins
papier-mâché
Makulatur
Dünne Papierauflagen, die einen gleichmäßig neutra-
len Untergrund schaffen.
http://epic.awi.de/36253/56/Denkmalpflege_2011-2.pdf
Makulatur
Gemisch aus Kleister und fein zerrissenem Papier, das vor dem Tapezieren auf eine Wand aufgetragen wird
http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Makulatur
Papier-mâché
Papier-mâché or paper mache (French [papje maʃe]; English /ˌpæpi.eɪ ˈmæʃeɪ/ or /ˌpeɪpər məˈʃeɪ/), French for "chewed paper", is a composite material consisting of paper pieces or pulp, sometimes reinforced with textiles, bound with an adhesive, such as glue, starch, or wallpaper paste.
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http://www.hollowaysauctioneers.co.uk/Catalogues/AF240309/pa...
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Papier-mâché was used for door panels at an earlier stage on the continent than in England.
It would be interesting to know whether this is a door with plain panelling or figural decoration.
Dünne Papierauflagen, die einen gleichmäßig neutra-
len Untergrund schaffen.
http://epic.awi.de/36253/56/Denkmalpflege_2011-2.pdf
Makulatur
Gemisch aus Kleister und fein zerrissenem Papier, das vor dem Tapezieren auf eine Wand aufgetragen wird
http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Makulatur
Papier-mâché
Papier-mâché or paper mache (French [papje maʃe]; English /ˌpæpi.eɪ ˈmæʃeɪ/ or /ˌpeɪpər məˈʃeɪ/), French for "chewed paper", is a composite material consisting of paper pieces or pulp, sometimes reinforced with textiles, bound with an adhesive, such as glue, starch, or wallpaper paste.
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http://www.hollowaysauctioneers.co.uk/Catalogues/AF240309/pa...
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Papier-mâché was used for door panels at an earlier stage on the continent than in England.
It would be interesting to know whether this is a door with plain panelling or figural decoration.
Note from asker:
Thanks for your thoughts, Wendy - I think the papier-mâché line of thinking may come in useful further down the road. |
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Helen Shiner
: Papier-mâché might consist of strips of paper laid down on top of one another, but the Papierauflagen refer to the strips of paper alone./I suppose it would say they were papier-mâché reliefs if they were, but it doesn't. Need more context/explanation.
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I appreciate your greater expertise on the matter, but if there are decorative features could these not be papier-mâché?
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Reference comments
50 mins
Reference:
More context
It's the church of St. Johannes Baptist in the town of Disentis. I haven't found any relevant pictures yet.
Reference:
http://www.graubuendenkultur.ch/en_EN/address/katholische_pfarrkirche_st_johannes_baptist.31351
Note from asker:
Phil, you are absolutely correct! Apologies - I should really start remembering to add that information at the start. Thanks for adding it here. |
Discussion
https://journals.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/index.php/nbdpfbw/arti...
Thank you, Helen - moving us in the right direction as always!
Thanks also to Phil for the additional research, and Oliver and Wendy for the suggested solutions.
Having been through all of this now, I think Orla and Helen have it, and I'll grade on that basis (a query has been winged off to the client, but they're not expected to get back to us until mid-Dec... thanks again for the contributions, everyone!
"…that woodworkers commonly reinforced joints, small flaws, or entire panels with linen in order to stabilize wooden substrates intended for painting. Other woodworkers lined their panels, or onlays, with paper or leather for the same purpose, as seen, for example, in the exterior side of the doors of the Palacio de los Infantes in Granada.
Although toppo intarsia was relatively inexpensive, it may have been too costly for many people. In the late fifteenth century, instead of being fabricated in wood, the patterns were printed on paper with woodblocks. Separate sheets, bearing different woodcuts, could be applied in varying configurations to cassone fronts and perhaps other furniture types."
I wonder if it could be something like this?! I would suggest that both the source text and the translation could do with a few more words to explain this more clearly - even the addition of "decorative" or something would be helpful! As it stands, I would use Helen's suggestion below.
but they havent really helped me understand what is meant by Papierauflagen..!
http://www.kirchen-online.org/downloads/poeschel---disentis-...
but it makes no mention of paper.