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Oct 25, 2014 02:58
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German term
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Meister
German to English
Tech/Engineering
Manufacturing
Difference between Meister and Vorarbeiter
Context is description of a dimensional check log that has to be signed off by both Vorarbeiter und Meister. I wonder what the exact hierarchical distinction is in a German production setting. Master doesn't work in English so I am unsure how to make the distinction. Would normally use foreman for Vorarbeiter so would the Meister be a team leader/(shift) supervisor/line manager? Or would the Vorarbeiter be a team leader and the Meister the general supervisor?
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Wulf-Dieter Krüger
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Wulf-Dieter Krüger
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International experience since 1979
Native in: German
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The German vocational educational system knows: Lehrlig, Geselle, Meister.
apprentice, journeyman, Master.
an apprentice goes to a master to learn a trade and to a vocational school to learn the theory of the trade.
At the end the apprentice will be examined as to his practical work and theoretical knowledge. Passed he becomes a Geselle journeyman in th old tradition, meaning he would look for another master to learn more about his trade. He later could take further practical and theory tests to become a master. A master is a craftsman, who is allowed to take on apprentices, a journeyman is not.
A Vorabeiter is a group leader or foreman with supervisoral functions, who would have to refer to the master (Meister) if he is stuck.
These terms are thus not only hierarchical but refer to level of qualifications.
So a highly qualified Geselle could be a foreman (Vorarbeiter)
so master (Meister) it could bee a master tailor (Schneidermeister), master bricklayer (Maurermeister), etc.
apprentice, journeyman, Master.
an apprentice goes to a master to learn a trade and to a vocational school to learn the theory of the trade.
At the end the apprentice will be examined as to his practical work and theoretical knowledge. Passed he becomes a Geselle journeyman in th old tradition, meaning he would look for another master to learn more about his trade. He later could take further practical and theory tests to become a master. A master is a craftsman, who is allowed to take on apprentices, a journeyman is not.
A Vorabeiter is a group leader or foreman with supervisoral functions, who would have to refer to the master (Meister) if he is stuck.
These terms are thus not only hierarchical but refer to level of qualifications.
So a highly qualified Geselle could be a foreman (Vorarbeiter)
so master (Meister) it could bee a master tailor (Schneidermeister), master bricklayer (Maurermeister), etc.
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