Oct 22, 2014 07:20
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Chinese term

小人

Chinese to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
孔子的小人。
I need a word for this, and it's got to be a good one. I've brainstormed, I've pondered, and I haven't got it yet...
They've got to be selfish, a bit pathetic, inconstant, untalented. In context:
说她是坏人吧,看重了她,但她实实在在地播下了永远也清除不净的罪恶的种子...对于这样的女人,我们所能给予的还是那个词:小人。小人的生存状态和社会后果,由此可见一斑。

My best ideas so far:
1) mediocrities 2) weasels

Discussion

Kate Shapkina Oct 22, 2014:
Well, then maybe nullity or cipher? Total zero?
Phil Hand (asker) Oct 22, 2014:
Not just women Thanks, Shang and Kate, for your quick responses. I should say that the author gives a female example there, but 小人 may be male or female.

Proposed translations

6 hrs
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Charlatans (I've put a few more below)

Shams, rascals, good-for-nothings, ne'er-do-wells, rotters, maggots (maybe a bit too strong).

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I'd like to add riffraff and rabble.

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Note added at 8 days (2014-10-30 15:40:06 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks! Good luck with the rest of the text.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, Dariush. You get the points for giving the most options. In the end I've stuck with weasels."
13 mins

vile character/villain

可恶的家伙
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19 mins

women with little minds

Very interesting question. On one hand so simple, on another very difficult in its simplicity.
What about people/women with little minds? I think here the author wants to show his scornful attitude to the women, whose minds are limited, narrow and shallow.
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50 mins

Sneaky Person

sneaky person,especially one who betrays or informs upon associates
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5 hrs

mean person

According to a dictionary, mean: characterized by malice; having or showing an ignoble lack of honor or morality, or (used of persons or behavior) characterized by or indicative of lack of generosity
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+1
6 hrs

despicable person (weasel/rat/scoundrel)

君子与小人

a noble person and a despicable one

To add more emphasis:
a despicable weasel/rat/scoundrel as opposed to a noble gentleman/lady
Peer comment(s):

agree David Lin : scoundrel
3 hrs
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1 hr

dimwit

Or if it's only female: "bimbo".

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I just thought of another one - a lowlife.
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1 day 6 hrs

a low-minded

a low-minded, a low-minded character/person

供参考
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2 days 20 hrs

孔子的小人: Inferior

孔子论述的小人是与君子在理念, 道德修养和行为上的区别相对而论的. 与君子的 “superior” 对应, 或许可以考虑 “Inferior” or “minion”.

However, in the given context, I also thought about words such as churl, vulgarian, and subaltern.
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30 days

Petty man; petty person

I remember hearing Professor Robert Chard at Oxford University give a lecture on this term (he is an expert in classical Chinese, especially Spring and Autumn period). His suggested translation was 'petty man', or 'petty person'. I have an inkling this may be the suggested translation given by Raymond Dawson in his version of the Analects too...
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