Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

bélier détériorateur

English translation:

unproven ram

Added to glossary by liz askew
Mar 10, 2014 19:27
10 yrs ago
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French term

bélier détériorateur

French to English Science Livestock / Animal Husbandry
"Notons que la répartition des béliers améliorateurs ou détériorateurs pour la collecte de semence a été faite en fonction de l’ancienne version du programme."

Thanks for the help!
Proposed translations (English)
4 unproven ram
3 degrader ram
Change log

Mar 20, 2014 10:29: liz askew changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/136638">Daniel Bouchard's</a> old entry - "bélier détériorateur"" to ""unproven ram""

Discussion

Daniel Bouchard (asker) Mar 10, 2014:
Proven ram for bélier améliorateur... maybe unproven ram then?

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unproven ram

béliers améliorateurs > proven rams - ProZ.com
www.proz.com › ... › French to English › Livestock / Animal Husbandry
23 Apr 2010 - (KudoZ) French to English translation of béliers améliorateurs: proven rams [Livestock / Animal Husbandry (Science)].

Farmers Newsletter September 2012 - Mountvets
www.mountvets.com/wp-content/.../01/September-2012-Newslett...
these factors are important, the role of the ram should not be overlooked. Mature rams should be able ... basis for all rams in the flock, and new or unproven rams.

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What is the diffence between proven and unproven alpaca
wiki.answers.com › ... › Mammals › Land Mammals › Alpacas‎
An unproven alpaca, therefore, is a male that has either not been bred or does not have enough offspring old enough to determine if he will pass on the desired .
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : I'm not saying you're wrong, but doesn't détériorateur imply they actually have a negative effect?
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no idea; I am not an expert on rams; I just find stuff
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "The best term based on my own research. Thanks!"
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degrader ram

an improver ram vs a degrader ram = improving or degrading the genetic quality of the flock

"Plus les bords de la forme se rapprochent de la graduation 10, plus l'animal est améliorateur (sur un plus ou moins grand nombre de facteurs).
Si les bords se concentrent vers le centre du diagramme, l'animal est détériorateur pour les facteurs concernés.."
[http://www.geodesheep.com/documents/PROGRAMME_AMELIORATION_b...]

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=QBp_9Gn0wh0C&pg=PA42&lpg=...

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http://www.agrireseau.qc.ca/ovins/documents/H10-Sujets repro...
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Genetic gain or loss

"A ram is 'half the flock.' His genetics will be spread over many more offspring than a ewe. Rams will be the primary means by which genetic improvement will be made in a flock. ... Rams are evaluated for breeding potential in a breeding soundness examination (BSE)."

Rams are assessed for the genetic improvement or deterioration (genetic gain/loss) they are likely to bring to the flock.

In my experience, a "proven" ram just means he's successfully sired lambs in the past.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Daryo
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