Aug 14, 2013 15:37
10 yrs ago
English term

Toke and cold ground rice pudding

English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature
"There was the rare eating of dinner from a paper parcel miles away from home. Toke and cold ground rice pudding with plums it used to be—there is no better food at all."

Could you please explain what "toke and cold ground rice pudding" means?

Thank you in advence.

Discussion

Catharine Cellier-Smart Aug 28, 2013:
Ground rice pudding vs rice pudding Just to point out that rice pudding and ground rice pudding are different desserts. Rice pudding uses short-grain whole grains of pudding rice (http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=254877391... whereas ground rice pudding uses ground rice (http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=254877419... Rice pudding is cooked in an oven, whereas - if I remember correctly from my childhood - ground rice is cooked on the stove.
Cansel22 (asker) Aug 14, 2013:
I've found a dessert called "Rice bread pudding" on google, I think it is exactly what I search for, huge thanks for your help Helen Genevier.
Cansel22 (asker) Aug 14, 2013:
So that's okey gallagy2.
Yvonne Gallagher Aug 14, 2013:
No offence taken! Just pointing out how important context, esp. time and place is:-)
Cansel22 (asker) Aug 14, 2013:
gallagy2 I am sorry for not supplying more context , my answer to Helen Genevier wasn't to offend you but to thank her.
Yvonne Gallagher Aug 14, 2013:
Post your answer Helen! It obviously is nothing to do with the modern slang word here> Context is vital!
Cansel22 (asker) Aug 14, 2013:
Thank u Helen Genevier, in the dictionary I couldn't find anything about "toke" except for drugs, bread is more reasonable for this sentence.
Cansel22 (asker) Aug 14, 2013:
It is a passage from Kipps, a novel by H.G. Wells. I think it has nothing to do with a joint, since it is about food. (Also there is nothing about a joint in the novel)
Helen Genevier Aug 14, 2013:
toke: bread? A couple of dictionaries say toke is an obsolete term for (a piece of) bread. An online dictionary says it meant a small piece of poor-quality bread in 19th century England.
Yvonne Gallagher Aug 14, 2013:
we might need more context here...where is this set and what time? Anything to do with taking a toke (of a joint)? The rice pudding bit is easy enough. here's a recipe http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/groundricepuddingpie.htm

Responses

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bread and rice pudding (made with ground rice, rather than whole rice)

I got these definitions, surprisingly, from a dictionary that is widely used in Australia. I accessed it via the e-resources portal available from the library I work in, although I think you can get free trial through the dictionary's website: http://www.macquariedictionary.com.au/

** rice pudding **
a hot or cold sweet dish made with milk and whole or ground rice and sugar.

‘rice pudding’ (2005) in The Macquarie Dictionary, The Macquarie Library Pty Ltd., South Yarra, VIC, Australia, viewed 16 August 2013, <from http://www.credoreference.com/entry/macqdict/rice_pudding>...


** toke **
Colloquial
1.
a loaf or piece of bread; 'For parsons and preachers are all a mere joke, / Their hands must be greased by a fee; / But with the poor tailer to share your last `toke', / That's the religion for me.' -russel ward 1966.

‘toke’ (2005) in The Macquarie Dictionary, The Macquarie Library Pty Ltd., South Yarra, VIC, Australia, viewed 16 August 2013, <from http://www.credoreference.com/entry/macqdict/toke>



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Note added at 1 day16 hrs (2013-08-16 08:18:56 GMT)
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Just to add that rice pudding is a traditional dessert here in the UK
Peer comment(s):

neutral Yvonne Gallagher : Hi Jessi, these answers were already given in the Discussion area so it's normal to at least mention that fact...
1 day 1 hr
I thought I would help by providing some links to authoritative references.
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