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Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 9, 2013:

Ik zou zeggen ogenschijnlijke match.

Kitty Brussaard Jun 9, 2013:

aantal kwadraatmeters? On the basis of the match with "m2 9xxx", I would say that "ka" probably refers to the number of square meters (i.e. "kwadraatmeters aantal", more commonly put as "aantal kwadraatmeters"). However, I agree with the other colleagues that you need to check this with your client as the abbreviation "ka" doesn't seem to be a common one in this type of context.

LAB2004 (asker) Jun 9, 2013:

@Barend - je hebt gelijk, het zou ook kosten aangepast kunnen zijn. Het bedrag 267, 63 is bij de andere jaren inderdaad anders. @ Jack en Natasha - ik zal zeker een antwoord van mijn klant proberen te krijgen. Ik ben in ieder geval heel blij met alle suggesties - bedankt iedereen voor het meedenken. Als ik iets te weten kom, zal ik het melden.

Natasha Ziada (X) Jun 9, 2013:

Another guess: kantoorafmetingen...

I think Jack is right: we can all take a guess but that is not going to be good enough. You could put forward all these suggestions to your client and see if they come up with something useful.

Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 8, 2013:

LJardine, variëren de kosten? Ik bedoel met name het bedrag 267,63, is dat bedrag bij andere jaren anders?

Zo ja, dan zou je misschien kunnen denken aan 'kosten aangepast'
'kosten aangepast' is aantal m2 x aangepast bedrag =
'servicekosten' is aantal m2 x uitkomst rekenformule =

ka - 9947 x 267.63 = 2.662.107,36
sk - 9947,099932 (9947,1) x 29.52 = 293.638,39 (what could that mean? 29,52(029657) x 9947 = 293.638,39)

2.662.107.36 + 293.638,39 = 2.955.745,75

ka - aantal m2 x 267.63 = 2.662.107.36
sk - aantal m2 x 29.52(03) = 293.638,39

Jack den Haan Jun 8, 2013:

I think you should check this with your client. If there's no adequate response, I would say leave it as is, with a footnote offering possible interpretations, e.g. kale huur (basic rent), kavelgrootte (lot size/area).

Natasha Ziada (X) Jun 8, 2013:

Kale huur? Thanks Ljardine.

I'm thinking could it mean Kale huur? I very much doubt KA is an official abbreviation but rent without servicekosten is kale huur...

freekfluweel Jun 8, 2013:

Okay, that all makes sense now it all adds up... ;-)

LAB2004 (asker) Jun 8, 2013:

Hi Phil/Natasha/Freek. I'm sorry for not being clear enough. Thanks to you all for pitching in. I've tried to reproduce the table again here with the numbers. Totaal should make sense now - it is the sum of the sk + ka. Nieuw refers to the adjusted rent compared to year 1 (and is in a separate column before ka). If you multiply 29,52 by 9947,1 you get €293.638,39 as per the table, which is why I think sk refers to servicekosten - but I'm happy for other suggestions.

nieuw ka 9947,1 € 267,63 €2.662.107,36

sk € 29,52 € 293.638,39

totaal € 2.955.745,75

Natasha Ziada (X) Jun 8, 2013:

I agree with Phil we need a bit more information. Can you give us the exact numbers that come after ka and sk, and how do they add up? (make if fictional if you wish but proportional)

How can the total sum be the result of adding square meters and euros? Total sum could be the result of multiplying ka and sk, but in that case it would seem weird to me if sk referred to servicekosten... as far as I'm aware they're normally not calculated by square meter (I might be wrong).

philgoddard Jun 7, 2013:

I've just realised you can't add ka and sk. One is square metres and the other is euro.

freekfluweel Jun 7, 2013:

How can one go from... ... 4 digits (in 9xxx) to minus/plus (xxx) to 3 digits (xxx) ?

LAB2004 (asker) Jun 7, 2013:

@ Phil: the 9xxx refers to the floor area of the leased property. Totaal refers to the result of adding ka and sk, as you thought.

LAB2004 (asker) Jun 7, 2013:

@freekfluweel - that surely must be it. It isn't referred to anywhere else in the document at all (neither are the servicekosten for that matter).

philgoddard Jun 7, 2013:

That doesn't answer any of my questions :-)

LAB2004 (asker) Jun 7, 2013:

Phil, thanks for trying to get to the bottom of it. It's obviously hard to reproduce the table here... It's a table under the heading 'teveel betaalde huur', giving how much was overpaid each year. It does refer to square metres.

freekfluweel Jun 7, 2013:

should be an explanation somewhere in the document You cannot use abbreviations nobody knows in a legal document!

freekfluweel Jun 7, 2013:

kwadraat(meter) aanpassingen ?

philgoddard Jun 7, 2013:

And what is "totaal"? Is it the result of adding ka and sk, or multiplying them, or neither?

philgoddard Jun 7, 2013:

You say "ka clearly refers to the floor area in square metres". Isn't that the answer to your question?
Also, what does XXX represent in 9XXX? And is there any narrative relating to the table, or is it just included without explanation?