Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

points reported to you

Greek translation:

σημεια αναφερθεντα/υποδειχθεντα σε εσας

Added to glossary by transphy
Aug 13, 2012 07:14
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English term

points reported to you

English to Greek Bus/Financial Law: Taxation & Customs
Home mortgage interest and points reported to you on Form 1098.

Σε US Individual Income Tax Return
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Sep 6, 2012 06:25: transphy changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/1022438">Viole T.'s</a> old entry - "points reported to you"" to ""σημεια αναφερθεντα/υποδειχθεντα σε εσας ""

Discussion

transphy Aug 29, 2012:
Hmmmmm!!!!! Having not seen the form I trust the asker has selected the most fitting answer. I have an open mind on this, however!!!
transphy Aug 14, 2012:
Yes, I, for one, had seen that, when Mr. Mohay had brought it up. My advice is that you forget all we said about 'σημεία' and leave it as 'ποιντς', γραμμενο στα Ελληνικα. Δεν νομιζω οτι αν το μεταφρασεις σε 'ποντους' πως καποιος που θα το διαβασει θα καταλαβει τι ειναι. Ετσι 'ποντους' παιρνουν και ποδοσφαιρικες Ομαδες κτλ. Αυτη ειναι η ιδεα μου. Καποιος αλλος μπορει να εχει λυση. Εγω λεω, ' .......ποιντς δυλωθεντα στο εντυπο 1098.'
Viole T. (asker) Aug 14, 2012:
Δυστυχώς συγκείμενο δεν υπάρχει, είναι μέρος του Εντύπου, ως πρόταση.
Αλλά ίσως αυτό το link
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p936/ar02.html/ar02.html#en_...
μπορεί να βοηθήσει.
Και ιδιαίτερα το σημείο που λέει:
"Points

The term “points” is used to describe certain charges paid, or treated as paid, by a borrower to obtain a home mortgage. Points may also be called loan origination fees, maximum loan charges, loan discount, or discount points.

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Figure B. Are My Points Fully Deductible This Year?

A borrower is treated as paying any points that a home seller pays for the borrower's mortgage. See Points paid by the seller , later. "
transphy Aug 13, 2012:
Viole T! Δυνατο να δωσεις, αν υπαρχει βεβαια, περισσοτερο κειμενο για να παρουμε μια ιδεα για τι ειδους points γινεται λογος?? It is reasonable, AS Mr. MOHAY has indicated out that 'points' might be connected to the 'Mortgage points', a system used in the States, to calculate Mortgage Interest and, therefore, what is deductible by the IRS. The sentence is rather ambiguous:- It could be, on close examination, <Home Mortgage and points>, relevant as mentioned above in the States, or it could be taken to be, < point 1, point2, point x >, on Form 1098 which were sent back to the concerned for possible clarification, which is what I presumed to be in my proposition.

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σημεια αναφερθεντα/υποδειχθεντα σε εσας

It looks as if there were points the Mortgage Co., either verbally or in written form, answered for the applicant, NOT necessarily regarding him/herself, i.e. points OTHER THAN PERSONAL, so '..σχετικά με εσάς??'
Δηλ., προσωπικα, βλεπω το ζητημα να ειναι στο 'με' και το 'σε' !!!!! Αν ειναι 'με' επρεπε να λεγει, π.χ. regarding you(rself)

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The question was on an Inland Revenue form and NOT a Mortgage Company, as said on top.

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Having looked at Mr. Mohay's suggestions I agree with his explanations, namely, 'points' refer to an initial 'payment' by a borrower to a lender to lower the Interest to be paid subsequently. Being deemed as an 'advance interest payment' the IRS allow it as a deductible expense. So, <points reported to you on Form 1098> ??? Another American way of making Money!!!!!
MY SUGGESTION IS TO LEAVE IT AS IS, i.e< ποιντς δηλωθεντα στο εντυπο....> and the praise and prize should go to Mr. Mohay.
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Τόκοι στεγαστικού δανείου για το σπίτι σας και τα σημεία σχετικά με εσάς στο Έντυπο 1098.

See "Instructions for Payer/Borrower" here: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1098.pdf

and also definition of "to: used as a function word to indicate addition, attachment, connection, belonging, possession, accompaniment, or response" (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/to)
Peer comment(s):

neutral Andras Mohay (X) : home mortgage interest δεν είναι "τόκος υποθήκης πρώτης κατοικίας"; - http://www.wikihow.com/Deduct-Mortgage-Interest
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Τι σημεία; -- Πόντοι, εκατοστιαίες/ποσοστιαίες μονάδες!

What Are Mortgage Interest Points?
Overview – A mortgage point is money paid upfront in return for a lower interest rate on the mortgage. Depending on how long you will be in your home, paying points may save you a great deal of interest charges in the long run.
Function – One point is equal to 1 percent of the total loan amount. The amount of reduction in your interest rate that paying points can provide varies among lenders.
http://www.soyouwanna.com/mortgage-interest-points-8586.html


For the purposes of a tax deduction,mortgage interest includes the interest and points on a primary residence. The term “points” refers to interest that is paid at the time the mortgage is secured to reduce monthly mortgage payments.
http://www.wikihow.com/Deduct-Mortgage-Interest


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Reported...

...που δηλώθηκε για σας (σχετικά με εσάς) από τον δανειστή σας (και αναγράφεται) στο Έντυπο 1098 σας.

I use Turbo Tax and it states, if you paid more interest than your Form 1098 shows, you must attach a statement to your tax return that explains why you can deduct more than your lender reported on your Form 1098.

http://www.loansafe.org/forum/bank-america-home-loans/47688-...
Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral transphy : You could very well be right here, Andras. It is confusing as to whether, 'points' should go with "Mortgage Inerest AND points' or it should refer to points 1,2,3....on the form. The meaning changes completely from one to the other.
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Το παν είναι η σωστή τεχνική αναζήτησης: βάλε "mortgage interest and points" (σε εισαγωγικά όμως!) και θα πλοηγηθείς σε σελίδες με Έντυπο 1098 και ό,τι άλλο τραβάει η καρδιά ενός Προζιανού
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