Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
pièce mère
English translation:
pattern, plug
Added to glossary by
Philip Taylor
Mar 9, 2012 13:04
12 yrs ago
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French term
pièce mère
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Ships, Sailing, Maritime
From a text on boat building:
Les grandes étapes de la construction: Lorsque les plans sont terminés, il faut procéder à la construction de la « pièce mère »: fabriquée en bois, c'est à partir de cette pièce que les moules sont réalisés pour donner naissance à toutes les unités.
Anyone able to tell me the English equivalent? I thought this would be easy to find, but it hasn't proved so. Perhap the French is incorrect in some way. Thanks in advance for any help...
Les grandes étapes de la construction: Lorsque les plans sont terminés, il faut procéder à la construction de la « pièce mère »: fabriquée en bois, c'est à partir de cette pièce que les moules sont réalisés pour donner naissance à toutes les unités.
Anyone able to tell me the English equivalent? I thought this would be easy to find, but it hasn't proved so. Perhap the French is incorrect in some way. Thanks in advance for any help...
Proposed translations
(English)
5 +3 | pattern | Graham macLachlan |
5 +3 | plug | Miranda Joubioux (X) |
2 | matrix | Laurette Tassin |
3 -2 | The most important part | Jean-Claude Gouin |
Proposed translations
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pattern
A figure in wood or metal from which a mould is made...
OED
torpedalo: RT @Henry_NC: The @torpedalo hull mould pattern has ...
www.torpedalo.com/.../torpedalo-rt-henry_nc-the-torpedalo-h...
29 Jun 2011 – torpedalo: RT @Henry_NC: The @torpedalo hull mould pattern has arrived here at Norco, she's a beaut! #timetobuildaboat http://t.co/c0ppva7 ...
Fiberglass spray lay-up process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiberglass_spray_lay-up_process
The outer shell of the mould is stiffened by a wood frame. The mould is made by taking the reversal of a male pattern. Several different hull sizes can be made ...
OED
torpedalo: RT @Henry_NC: The @torpedalo hull mould pattern has ...
www.torpedalo.com/.../torpedalo-rt-henry_nc-the-torpedalo-h...
29 Jun 2011 – torpedalo: RT @Henry_NC: The @torpedalo hull mould pattern has arrived here at Norco, she's a beaut! #timetobuildaboat http://t.co/c0ppva7 ...
Fiberglass spray lay-up process - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiberglass_spray_lay-up_process
The outer shell of the mould is stiffened by a wood frame. The mould is made by taking the reversal of a male pattern. Several different hull sizes can be made ...
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This is probably neatestin my context, 'plug' also being corect, it seems. Thanks to everyone who answered an/or commented."
+3
1 hr
plug
Having had to ask specialists in boat building what this term was, I'm pretty sure that this is the correct term.
See
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-building/what-makes-bo...
See
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-building/what-makes-bo...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
philgoddard
: This appears to be an exact synonym for pattern.
4 hrs
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Thanks Phil
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agree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Plug is the term I am much more familiar with and used by designers and builders I've worked with in the past.//@ Graham : as in one of my ref below, it would be possible to mention both "pattern or plug" and then opt for use of one or the other.
5 hrs
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Thanks Nikki
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agree |
Graham macLachlan
: but I don't agree that it is "the" correct term, as Phil says, it's a synonym, and it is certainly arcane for a wider audience
17 hrs
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Thanks Graham
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1 hr
The most important part
Je crois qu'ici on parle de la coque du bateau ... la partie la plus importante ... la partie principale. Ensuite viennent les autres composantes. En anglais la 'motherboard' est la pièce mère,
c-à-d. la partie principale, la partie la plus importante ...
c-à-d. la partie principale, la partie la plus importante ...
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
philgoddard
: Doesn't make sense in the context.
3 hrs
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Merci pour ton opinion. Comme de raison, je parlais au figuré.
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disagree |
Sam Whatley
: Motherboard for me is only related to the principle circuit board in computer hardware. Plug is definitely the correct term, at least in EN-GB
5 hrs
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J'ai lu votre opinion.
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4 hrs
matrix
don't know much about boat terminology but thisis what it sounds like to me
Reference comments
10 hrs
Reference:
plug, mould plug, mold plug,
Boat plug, hull plug, deck plug etc
http://www.f-boat.com/pages/News2/FM-Factory2010.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfgkuJ8GNts
http://www.fiberlay.com/howto/issue1.htm (pattern is used here too)
http://www.selway-fisher.com/boat_building_methods.htm
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Note added at 2 days19 hrs (2012-03-12 08:06:23 GMT)
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I’ve done a little rooting around to see if there is any concensus differentiating usage of the terms “pattern” and “plug”. Apart from being reminded that “master” is also a common term for “plug”, both “pattern” and “plug” seemed to be used pretty interchangeably. The reason I am more familiar with “plug”, may be due to the fact that I am much most familiar with composite construction and terminology ; although a couple of glossaries mark no difference, one glossary does say that “plug” is a composite industry term for “pattern” or “model”. GLossaries being what glossaires are, and companies compying a glossary from one place to another, who know where what seems to be a repeated glossary started out in the first palce.
Irens and Pennfornis use "plug", so do most of the builders and architects I've worked with in the past. Then I suppose again that one person starts using a given term and the others follow! Plug and pattern are no doubt interchangeable.
http://www.fiberglasssupply.com/pdf/miscellaneous/Glossary.p...
Pattern : the initial model for making fiberglass molds.
Master (Plug) : the tool used to build molds for the manufacture of fiberglass Parts
Plug : See Master - Both terms used to imply the same meaning. Form identical in shape to the finished object over which a mold is fabricated
http://www.fgci.com/pdf/GLOSSARY OF TERMS.pdf
Master (Plug) : The permanent tool used to build molds for the manufacture of fiberglass parts.
http://www.precisioneering.com/glossary_definitions.htm
MASTER (plug) : A full scale representation of the intended part, usually retained as a reference and the part from which production molds are made
PATTERN : The initial model for making fiberglass molds. See PLUG.
PLUG : A composite industry term for a pattern or model.
http://www.occupationalinfo.org/80/806684086.html
TITLE(s): MOLD LAMINATOR (concrete prod.; ship-boat mfg.) alternate titles: plug-and-mold finisher
Builds up layers of fiberglass and resin over plug (wooden or plaster pattern) to form molds for plastic product sections or to be used in casting concrete products, using handtools and portable power tools: Fills cracks, depressions, and holes on plug surface with plastic filler material and sandpapers plug to smooth surface. Applies and buffs wax on plug to obtain glossy surface. Brushes surface of plug with water-soluble parting agent to facilitate removal of mold. Covers plug with fiberglass cloth and trims off excess cloth with shears.
http://www.f-boat.com/pages/News2/FM-Factory2010.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfgkuJ8GNts
http://www.fiberlay.com/howto/issue1.htm (pattern is used here too)
http://www.selway-fisher.com/boat_building_methods.htm
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Note added at 2 days19 hrs (2012-03-12 08:06:23 GMT)
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I’ve done a little rooting around to see if there is any concensus differentiating usage of the terms “pattern” and “plug”. Apart from being reminded that “master” is also a common term for “plug”, both “pattern” and “plug” seemed to be used pretty interchangeably. The reason I am more familiar with “plug”, may be due to the fact that I am much most familiar with composite construction and terminology ; although a couple of glossaries mark no difference, one glossary does say that “plug” is a composite industry term for “pattern” or “model”. GLossaries being what glossaires are, and companies compying a glossary from one place to another, who know where what seems to be a repeated glossary started out in the first palce.
Irens and Pennfornis use "plug", so do most of the builders and architects I've worked with in the past. Then I suppose again that one person starts using a given term and the others follow! Plug and pattern are no doubt interchangeable.
http://www.fiberglasssupply.com/pdf/miscellaneous/Glossary.p...
Pattern : the initial model for making fiberglass molds.
Master (Plug) : the tool used to build molds for the manufacture of fiberglass Parts
Plug : See Master - Both terms used to imply the same meaning. Form identical in shape to the finished object over which a mold is fabricated
http://www.fgci.com/pdf/GLOSSARY OF TERMS.pdf
Master (Plug) : The permanent tool used to build molds for the manufacture of fiberglass parts.
http://www.precisioneering.com/glossary_definitions.htm
MASTER (plug) : A full scale representation of the intended part, usually retained as a reference and the part from which production molds are made
PATTERN : The initial model for making fiberglass molds. See PLUG.
PLUG : A composite industry term for a pattern or model.
http://www.occupationalinfo.org/80/806684086.html
TITLE(s): MOLD LAMINATOR (concrete prod.; ship-boat mfg.) alternate titles: plug-and-mold finisher
Builds up layers of fiberglass and resin over plug (wooden or plaster pattern) to form molds for plastic product sections or to be used in casting concrete products, using handtools and portable power tools: Fills cracks, depressions, and holes on plug surface with plastic filler material and sandpapers plug to smooth surface. Applies and buffs wax on plug to obtain glossy surface. Brushes surface of plug with water-soluble parting agent to facilitate removal of mold. Covers plug with fiberglass cloth and trims off excess cloth with shears.
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree |
Miranda Joubioux (X)
: Thanks for those references!
2 days 7 hrs
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