Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
sich berühmen
English translation:
to assert a claim
Added to glossary by
Steffen Walter
Jun 25, 2003 16:04
20 yrs ago
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German term
Native in: English 
Works in: Danish to English, French to English, German to English, and 1 more.
sich berühmen
German to English
Bus/Financial
Law (general)
Think there may be a typo here, but can't work meaning of sentence out.
Dem Insolvenzverwalter ist bekannt, dass sich Dritte dem Versicherer gegenuber der Inhaberschaft der Rechte, an den zu Gunsten der *** Bank AG eingetreten Rechten aus Ihrer Lebensversicherung, berühmen (??)
TIA for any help with this sentence.
Dem Insolvenzverwalter ist bekannt, dass sich Dritte dem Versicherer gegenuber der Inhaberschaft der Rechte, an den zu Gunsten der *** Bank AG eingetreten Rechten aus Ihrer Lebensversicherung, berühmen (??)
TIA for any help with this sentence.
Proposed translations
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| 3 +1 | Make a claim |
John Bowden
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| 3 +2 | bemühen (typo) |
Edith Kelly
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| 3 +2 | sich berühmen = sich rühmen |
Trudy Peters
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| 4 | assert, claim to have |
Hermeneutica
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Change log
Jul 16, 2007 15:01: Steffen Walter changed "Term asked" from "ber�hmen?" to "sich berühmen" , "Field (specific)" from "(none)" to "Law (general)"
Jul 16, 2007 15:02: Steffen Walter changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/44064">John Bowden's</a> old entry - "sich berühmen"" to ""Assert a claim""
Proposed translations
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Make a claim
It might be old-fashioned, but it is still in use: this is an extract form the "Allgemeine Liferbedingungen" in the link:
"Rechtsverfolgungskosten,
die uns durch die Notwendigkeit eines Vorgehens gegen Pfändungspfandgläubiger
oder sonstige Personen entstehen, die sich eines Rechts an der Ware berühmen,
gehen zu Lasten des Kunden."
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Sorry, here\'s the link: HTH
http://www.comdat-electronic.de/Datenblatt/Katalog.pdf
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\"Li*e*ferbedingungen\", of course!
"Rechtsverfolgungskosten,
die uns durch die Notwendigkeit eines Vorgehens gegen Pfändungspfandgläubiger
oder sonstige Personen entstehen, die sich eines Rechts an der Ware berühmen,
gehen zu Lasten des Kunden."
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Sorry, here\'s the link: HTH
http://www.comdat-electronic.de/Datenblatt/Katalog.pdf
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\"Li*e*ferbedingungen\", of course!
Peer comment(s):
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LegalTrans D
: Right you are, John, but can you be sure the Terms & Conditions you quote don't date back to the 19th century? It seems to me a lot of them do and are handed down from generation to the next, like a family recipe.
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si e' vero, infatti ho lasciato in neretto "prodotti"
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks a lot!"
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Edith Kelly
Switzerland
Switzerland
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English
Specializes in field
Switzerland
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, English
Works in: German to English, English to German, Dutch to German, and 4 more.
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bemühen (typo)
try to get
Peer comment(s):
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swisstell
: or: endeavor to get
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Thanks.
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IanW (X)
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goraibh maith agat.
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LegalTrans D
: ich glaube nicht, dass es ein Tippfehler ist, Edith. S. meine Anmerkung zur Antwort von Trudy.
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Why would anyone use Yiddish in that context? Beats me, Volkmar.
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sich berühmen = sich rühmen
Could be an alternative to rühmen, see:
... Gelegenheit zur Klärung gegeben, ob die Beschwerdeführer die Beratungskompetenz
vorweisen können, derer sie sich berühmen, allerdings auch darauf ...
www.arbeitsrecht-fa.de/aktuell/nachrichten/n029.htm - 7k
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sich einer Sache rühmen = to boast of sth.
... Gelegenheit zur Klärung gegeben, ob die Beschwerdeführer die Beratungskompetenz
vorweisen können, derer sie sich berühmen, allerdings auch darauf ...
www.arbeitsrecht-fa.de/aktuell/nachrichten/n029.htm - 7k
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sich einer Sache rühmen = to boast of sth.
Peer comment(s):
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LegalTrans D
: Genau, hat denn niemand die Tante Jolesch gelesen, die sich dauernd berühmen will?
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Hermeneutica
: This is what I was trying to say but didn't know asmuch as Volkmar does about the origins of the usage!
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Hermeneutica
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assert, claim to have
If it is not a typo, then it is highly sarcastic ... but in any event, except if it is indeed "bemuehen", seek to establish, as another answerer suggested, then this would be it ...
HTH
Dee
HTH
Dee
Peer comment(s):
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LegalTrans D
: "berühmen" isn't sarcastic, Dee, rather it has got a Yiddish twist to it. Not too long ago (well, about seventy years or so) it was used fairly frequently.
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Ha, interesting! Thank you, I didn't know the Yiddish twist, and 70 yrs ago makes it a little "special" in this register, though, don't you think?
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