Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

ingeniería inicial

English translation:

(contemplated) when it was originally conceived / at the time of its conception

Added to glossary by Jenni Lukac (X)
Jul 31, 2011 02:15
12 yrs ago
Spanish term

ingeniería inicial

Spanish to English Art/Literary Philosophy
Lo que hay es dos tiempos separados por un tiempo muerto o tiempo mediocre, una laguna inválida. Así que a la Historia se le practica una amputación. (Esta amputación sólo fue posible, no lo olvidemos, porque la ficción de un cuerpo total había sido previamente construida. La amputación, en verdad, es una de las posibilidades contempladas en la ingeniería inicial).

A google search reveals that "ingeniería inicial" appears to mean something like "engineering set up" or "first design". Any suggestions for how to translate it here in this more metaphorical (perhaps) context?

From philosophy text. Mexico.
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Aug 1, 2011 21:37: Jenni Lukac (X) Created KOG entry

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(contemplated) when it was originally conceived / at the time of its conception

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Peer comment(s):

agree Altogringo : Good plain speak. Prefer your first option and also like Pinguino and David Hollywood.
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Cheers and thanks, Altogringo.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks. Great suggestion."
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from the outset

maybe ...

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Note added at 5 mins (2011-07-31 02:20:42 GMT)
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a touch of poetic licence but might do the trick ...

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Note added at 11 mins (2011-07-31 02:26:06 GMT)
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in the sense that this was all thought about and taken into account beforehand

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Note added at 11 mins (2011-07-31 02:26:33 GMT)
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let's see what others have to say ...
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when originally devised

An alternate meaning for ingeniar is devise. It looks like that is more what the text is looking for.
Peer comment(s):

agree Natalia Pedrosa (X)
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in the original design/concept

another option: "envisioned in the original design/concept"
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in the initial engineering plan

I believe in retaining creative images like "ingeniería" if they fit in the translation, to do otherwise is to "bowdlerize" the author's writing and dilute the creativity in it
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(at the) design stage

'...one of the possibilities considered at the design stage.'

I think 'design' would be a good choice here because it is valid for both engineering and Creation - God's design, by natural design etc.
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