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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

farbräumliche Tiefe

English translation:

tonal depth / depth of colour

Added to glossary by Catherine Winzer
Jul 18, 2011 08:48
12 yrs ago
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German term

farbräumliche Tiefe

German to English Art/Literary Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
"Linien und Liniensegmente verknüpfen sich in wechselnder Zuordnung zu einzelnen Binnenkonstellationen, die das Geflecht von Gitterstrukturen mit Zonen ***farbräumlicher Tiefe*** und Modulationen farbiger Lichthaftigkeit hinterlegen."

From a description of a series of paintings. The full text can be found on page 5 of the following PDF:
http://www.guenter-malchow.de/pdf/Katalog_web_stromata.pdf

I found "colour space" for "Farbraum", but I'm not sure if it fits this context and, if so, how to combine it with "depth".
Proposed translations (English)
4 +5 tonal depth / depth of colour
3 +1 color and spatial depth
4 zones of color shading providing spatial depth
3 colour(ful) spatial depth
3 colored zones giving spatial depth
References
nothing to do with space

Discussion

Nicola Wood Jul 18, 2011:
agree with Helen Like Helen I read this as referring to the colour only, with farbräumlich being an adjective based on Farbraum, not including a separate reference to räumlich, so no need to refer to spatiality or perspective.
Helen Shiner Jul 18, 2011:
@Catherine I agree that your other examples refer to spatiality. But here it is depth of colour/tone, which in itself may create spatial illusions (eg one colour appearing to be nearer the picture plane than another; one colour appearing to recede. Think reds and whites, for instance.
Catherine Winzer (asker) Jul 18, 2011:
spatiality Thanks for your comments, Helen. You may well be right that "Farbraum" is referring to the colour spectrum rather than spatiality as such. The text does, however, talk about spatiality in the paintings, such as in the following sentence (on the previous page):

"Im Gitter aus Senkrechten und Waagerechten entstehen an den Kreuzungspunkten zweier Linien durch die Überlagerung räumliche Abstände, welche die Raumwirkungen der Farben aufgreifen oder sie kontrastieren."

I'm not sure if "farbräumlich" is referring to this or not.
Helen Shiner Jul 18, 2011:
@Ramey Please see my suggested answer. I don't think this is about spatiality as such, except in terms of the sense conveyed by the concept of the spectrum.
Ramey Rieger (X) Jul 18, 2011:
Okay I would usually translate "Farbraum" with (colour) spectrum. but in this case I'm somewhat stumped by "farbräumlich", after reading your entry. How would you combine the two concepts? At first I was considering "perspective depth of colour" (spectrum?). Only answer if you have the time and desire to do so.
Helen Shiner Jul 18, 2011:
@ Ramey It seems to me that the word in question is an adjective based on Farbraum, not Raum per se.
Ramey Rieger (X) Jul 18, 2011:
@ Helen I respect your expertise on the subject, and would like to ask you if, in this case "räumlich" has little to do with spatiality? I am not a German native speaker, so it seems like a "language trap".
Helen Shiner Jul 18, 2011:
Farbraum I would suggest that Farbraum here means colour spectrum, so these passages/areas contain a wide spectrum of colours. I think you will need to rewrite the sentence a bit.

Proposed translations

+5
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tonal depth / depth of colour

Maybe even saturation of colour/colour saturation

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Note added at 3 hrs (2011-07-18 12:41:41 GMT)
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Aerial perspective - Due to light scattering by the atmosphere, objects that are a great distance away have lower luminance contrast and lower color saturation. In computer graphics, this is often called "distance fog". The foreground has high contrast; the background has low contrast. Objects differing only in their contrast with a background appear to be at different depths. The color of distant objects are also shifted toward the blue end of the spectrum (e.g., distant mountains). Some painters, notably Cézanne, employ "warm" pigments (red, yellow and orange) to bring features forward towards the viewer, and "cool" ones (blue, violet, and blue-green) to indicate the part of a form that curves away from the picture plane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception

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Note added at 3 days6 hrs (2011-07-21 15:25:15 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks, Catherine
Peer comment(s):
agree Ramey Rieger (X) : Aha! Not as complicated as I thought, and quite close to my answer. Colour depth saturation? It's still the combination of saturation and/colour/depth that I'm missing.
9 mins
Thanks for the agree. I don't suggest combining. They are alternatives.
agree Nicola Wood : Alos agree with discussion entry - this is based on Farbraum only, not Farbe and räumlich
2 hrs
Thanks, Nicola
agree Nicole Schnell
8 hrs
Thanks, Nicole
agree Jim Tucker (X) : "Space" is purely metaphorical, to describe the "slice" of color-territory used
8 hrs
Thanks Jim, yes, just a chunk of the colour spectrum.
agree Sarah Swift
12 hrs
Thanks, Sarah
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I chose "tonal depth". Thank you, Helen, and thank you to everyone else, too, for the interesting discussion!"
+1
12 mins

color and spatial depth

This is what I came up with when I thought of 'Farbe' and 'räumliche Tiefe'.

Spell it 'colour' (BE) or 'color' (AE).
Peer comment(s):
agree Ramey Rieger (X) : slight difference, 2 minutes faster!
3 mins
Thanks, Ramey. Very gracious, indeed
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14 mins

colour(ful) spatial depth

my suggestion
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30 mins

colored zones giving spatial depth

… with colored zones giving spatial depth and modulations of luminosity to the mesh of grid structures…

Exaples found @ linguee, e.g.:
Dabei gelang es ihm, den Bildern räumliche Tiefe zu geben = he succeeded in giving the pictures a spatial depth

Reference:

http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/uebersetzung/r%E4umliche+tiefe.html

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1 day 10 hrs

zones of color shading providing spatial depth

This HAS to do with space, as color is one of the ways to convey perspective in a painting.
For color perspective see http://www.wetcanvas.com/ArtSchool/Color/ColorTheory/Lesson5...
Example sentence:

Trained artists are keenly aware of the various methods for indicating spatial depth (color shading, distance fog, perspective and relative size), and take advantage of them to make their works appear "real".

Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception#Depth_perception_in_art

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Reference comments

10 hrs
Reference:

nothing to do with space

as here
Reference:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farbraum

Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Helen Shiner
3 hrs
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