Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Latin term or phrase:
servata fides cinere
English translation:
Loyalty preserved in ashes (Faithful unto death?)
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David Wigtil
Feb 27, 2003 19:32
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servata fides cinere
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I believe it is Gaelic. This is my family coat of arms motto.
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| 3 +4 | Loyalty preserved in ashes (Faithful unto death?) |
David Wigtil
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| 5 | the faith is preserved in (under) the ash |
smarinella
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| 5 -1 | The promise made is faithfully kept. |
Ino66 (X)
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David Wigtil
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Loyalty preserved in ashes (Faithful unto death?)
Yes, the "Mottoes" Web site offers the translation offered by Ino66, but the word CINERE has no connection to "faithfulness" or "promises", that I've ever seen anyway.
CINIS, CINERIS is the word for "cold ashes" (forming the root of the English verb "incinerate"). CINERE is its ablative case form, which would imply "in ashes, through/by means of ashes." Grammatically it would be the instrument with the participle SERVATA, but the connection appears tenuous.
Absent any additional context (the eternal plague of all mottoes!), and given the common Roman use of CINIS as a euphemism for the dead (i.e., their cremated ashes), I loosely paraphrase this as, "Faithful unto death, Loyalty preserved in death."
--Loquamur
CINIS, CINERIS is the word for "cold ashes" (forming the root of the English verb "incinerate"). CINERE is its ablative case form, which would imply "in ashes, through/by means of ashes." Grammatically it would be the instrument with the participle SERVATA, but the connection appears tenuous.
Absent any additional context (the eternal plague of all mottoes!), and given the common Roman use of CINIS as a euphemism for the dead (i.e., their cremated ashes), I loosely paraphrase this as, "Faithful unto death, Loyalty preserved in death."
--Loquamur
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Ino66 (X)
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The promise made is faithfully kept.
It is Latin, not Gaelic.
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Scott Horne (X)
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smarinella
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the faith is preserved in (under) the ash
this is the literary translation
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