Feb 15, 2010 14:34
14 yrs ago
German term
Feierkirche
German to English
Social Sciences
Architecture
Kirchenbau
Does anyone know the English translation for this architectural term? It comes up in a translation I am doing about the Versöhnungskirche in Leipzig. "Die Feierkirche unter der Orgelempore ist mit Fenstern nach Entwürfen von Odo Tattenpach geschmückt"
In another context, I have found the distinction between "Feierkirche" and "Predigtkirche", but have no idea what to call them in English.
In another context, I have found the distinction between "Feierkirche" and "Predigtkirche", but have no idea what to call them in English.
Proposed translations
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| 3 +2 | oratory chapel |
Helen Shiner
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| 3 +2 | ceremonial church |
Edith Kelly
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References
| Info |
Kim Metzger
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Change log
Feb 15, 2010 17:41: Kim Metzger changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences"
Proposed translations
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2 hrs
Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
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Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Arts/Academic translator - Art historian
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, French to English
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oratory chapel
In Roman Catholic Canon Law a chapel, technically called an "oratory" is a building or part thereof dedicated to the celebration of services, particularly the Mass, which is not a parish church. This may be a private chapel, for the use of one person or a select group (a bishop's private chapel, or the chapel of a convent, for instance); a semi-public oratory, which is partially available to the general public (a seminary chapel that welcomes visitors to services, for instance); or a public oratory (for instance, a hospital or university chapel).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel
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To be honest this is rather more of a guess, but I thought I'd better post it as I presume such a chapel can be set in opposition to a funerary chapel.
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It might well be a better offering for Predigtkirche, but perhaps this will prompt someone else to reach the right conclusion.
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http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11271a.htm
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Thanks, Claire - good solution; I was wondering whether to say just plain old 'side chapel' but chapel is fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapel
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To be honest this is rather more of a guess, but I thought I'd better post it as I presume such a chapel can be set in opposition to a funerary chapel.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-02-15 17:39:05 GMT)
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It might well be a better offering for Predigtkirche, but perhaps this will prompt someone else to reach the right conclusion.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-02-15 17:43:04 GMT)
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http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11271a.htm
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Note added at 2 days1 hr (2010-02-17 16:00:27 GMT) Post-grading
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Thanks, Claire - good solution; I was wondering whether to say just plain old 'side chapel' but chapel is fine.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Kim Metzger
: This comes pretty close, but I'm not an expert.
2 hrs
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Thanks, Kim - just not quite sure whether it is spot on.
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| agree |
CArcher
4 hrs
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Thanks, CArcher
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This was closest so I'll give it the points. In the end I just wrote "chapel" and ignored the "Feier" part - it's perfectly understandable without."
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5 mins
Edith Kelly
Switzerland
Switzerland
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&
English
Switzerland
Professional conference interpreter
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, English
Works in: German to English, English to German, Dutch to German, and 4 more.
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60
ceremonial church
church used for ceremonial purposes
and if you google "ceremonial church" you will find entries.
Churches used more for ceremonial purposes (in German, Feierkirchen), ..... Some details on the sound system in St. Michael's Church, Hamburg The ...
www.aes.org › Publications › E-Library
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Cathedral Builders: The Story of a Great Masonic Guild 1899 - Leader Scott - 2003
They were generally used as baptisteries or mausoleums ; in fact were ceremonial churches. Aix-la Chapelle was designed as the tomb of Charlemagne, ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0766179907...
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Predigtkirche - sermon church, also googles well if you compare both the German and English descriptions
and if you google "ceremonial church" you will find entries.
Churches used more for ceremonial purposes (in German, Feierkirchen), ..... Some details on the sound system in St. Michael's Church, Hamburg The ...
www.aes.org › Publications › E-Library
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Cathedral Builders: The Story of a Great Masonic Guild 1899 - Leader Scott - 2003
They were generally used as baptisteries or mausoleums ; in fact were ceremonial churches. Aix-la Chapelle was designed as the tomb of Charlemagne, ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0766179907...
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Predigtkirche - sermon church, also googles well if you compare both the German and English descriptions
Reference comments
44 mins
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Mexico
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Mexico
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Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: German to English
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Reference:
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Die Doppelkapelle oder auch Doppelkirche (im weiteren Sinne) ist ein Bauwerk mit zwei übereinander angeordneten gemeinsam genutzten Kulträumen bzw. Kapellen unterschiedlicher liturgischer Funktion. Meist befindet sich über einer Begräbniskapelle im Untergeschoss eine Feierkirche im Obergeschoss.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelkapelle
Dedicated to the Holy Cross, the chapel of Landsberg is a sober edifice with three apses covered by a hip roof. The double chapel owes its present form to Margrave Konrad of Landsberg, who had a separate chapel, reserved for the lords, added between 1195 and 1200. The common people were relegated to the lower part while their masters sat in the upper part. Note the sculpted capitals and columns of red marble stolen in Italy (upper chapel).
http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/web/Tourist_site/Landsberg-0618...
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A Doppelkirche has two separate chapels - in some cases (always?) there's a chapel for funerals and a chapel for regular religious services.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelkapelle
Dedicated to the Holy Cross, the chapel of Landsberg is a sober edifice with three apses covered by a hip roof. The double chapel owes its present form to Margrave Konrad of Landsberg, who had a separate chapel, reserved for the lords, added between 1195 and 1200. The common people were relegated to the lower part while their masters sat in the upper part. Note the sculpted capitals and columns of red marble stolen in Italy (upper chapel).
http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/web/Tourist_site/Landsberg-0618...
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A Doppelkirche has two separate chapels - in some cases (always?) there's a chapel for funerals and a chapel for regular religious services.
Note from asker:
| Hi Kim, yes I have the feeling that Feierkirche refers to part of the church, too, and is not just a descriptive term for the kind of church it is. I'm asking my client for more clarification |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Helen Shiner
: funerary chapel and oratory chapel? I'm a little unsure.
2 hrs
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Discussion
It looks like a chapel that is used for small services - perhaps family services like weddings, funerals and baptisms, and it could be useful for some services in winter if the main church area is too big to heat. You could poke around their website and send them an e-mail to ask what it is used for - they will probably be pleased as punch to hear that you are interested.
So it sounds like you've hit the nail on the head, Helen. The only thing is, the church I'm talking about is Evangelisch, not Catholic. Would it still be called an oratory chapel?