Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
a joy rooted in God's rule that is never overcome in God's children.
Spanish translation:
un gozo que Dios ha sembrado en el corazón de sus hijos y que jamás les podrá ser arrebatado
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Remy Arce
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English term
Germany
beyond words
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Standard-Spain) 
Works in: English to Spanish, German to Spanish, Dutch to Spanish
a joy rooted in God's rule that is never overcome in God's children.
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¿Podrían ayudarme con esta frase? No entiendo muy bien que sentido tiene aquí el verbo "overcome"
¡Gracias por anticipado!
Joyless faith in Jesus is a contradiction in terms. Paul summed up the goal of his whole ministry like this: "for the advancement and joy of your faith." And he told the Philippians and Thessalonians, "Rejoice always, and again I will say rejoice." Always? Yes. Not without tears of grief and pain. But still joyful. When my mother was killed, I cried for about half an hour before I could stop. But as I knelt there by my bed, I was not only grieving. I was hoping. And while it is very hard to describe, there was a kind of joy in God and his sovereign goodness that later on at her funeral I tried to express.
So don't oversimplify: it is not wrong to cry (weep with those who weep), but ***there is a joy rooted in God's rule of love that is never overcome in God's children.***
¡Gracias por anticipado!
Joyless faith in Jesus is a contradiction in terms. Paul summed up the goal of his whole ministry like this: "for the advancement and joy of your faith." And he told the Philippians and Thessalonians, "Rejoice always, and again I will say rejoice." Always? Yes. Not without tears of grief and pain. But still joyful. When my mother was killed, I cried for about half an hour before I could stop. But as I knelt there by my bed, I was not only grieving. I was hoping. And while it is very hard to describe, there was a kind of joy in God and his sovereign goodness that later on at her funeral I tried to express.
So don't oversimplify: it is not wrong to cry (weep with those who weep), but ***there is a joy rooted in God's rule of love that is never overcome in God's children.***
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un gozo que Dios ha sembrado en el corazón de sus hijos y que jamás les podrá ser arrebatado
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English term (edited):
a joy rooted in God's rule of love that is never overcome in God's children.
hay un gozo arraigado en la regla de amor de Dios que nunca es derrotado en los hijos de Dios
El gozo no cae derrotado por las circunstancias negativas (como la muerte de la madre).
Tal vez haya otra forma mejor de expresarlo.
Espero haberte ayudado.
Ana :)
Tal vez haya otra forma mejor de expresarlo.
Espero haberte ayudado.
Ana :)
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jude dabo
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juanjomendi
: Tal vez mejore con "se rinde" en lugar de con "es derrotado". Estaría más acorde con la teología paulina que el texto muestra
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Verónica Lassa
Argentina
Argentina
Native in Spanish
Argentina
A practical read without spilling a drop
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Latin American, US, Argentine) 
Works in: English to Spanish
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que no se rinde en sus hijos (los hijos de Dios)
Esa alegría que está en la base de su ley, no se deja vencer en quienes son sus hijos. La idea es que prevalece (por encima del llanto o el dolor)
Ojalá ayude
Ojalá ayude
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Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Spain
Golf, Literature and Religion Specialist
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, French to Spanish, Spanish
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en el mandato de amor de Dios hay un gozo intrínseco que nada ni nadie podrá arrebatar a los hijos
... de Dios".
19 hrs
para los hijos de Dios hay un gozo en la Voluntad divina que jamás les será arrebatado
Para traducir "overcome" como vencer podríamos parafrasear algo así como "hay un gozo reservado para los hijos de Dios.... y éstos jamás serán vencidos"
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