Feb 19, 2009 12:57
15 yrs ago
Hindi term

ahara

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Greetings,

This would seem to be a term for a kind of district amongst both the Saatavaahanas and even during (later) Mauryan times.

Please, how do you write it in Devanagari, and what would be the best way to translate it?

All the best, and many thanks,

Simon
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Discussion

Lalit Sati Feb 20, 2009:
कृपया मेरे उत्तर में अभी जोड़ी गई टिप्पणी को देखें।
C.M. Rawal Feb 20, 2009:
विकिपीडिया में कई शब्दों की वर्तनी कहीं-कहीं गलत भी दी गई है। इसलिए हम इसे मानक वर्तनी के रूप में 'आहार' नहीं मान सकते। फिर यहां तो इसका अर्थ भी सही नहीं निकल रहा है।
C.M. Rawal Feb 20, 2009:
इसके लिए सही शब्द तो 'अहरा' ही है। आहार का अर्थ भोजन या खाद्य पदार्थ होता है। विभिन्न हिन्दी शब्दकोशों के अनुसार अहरा का अर्थ पड़ाव, अस्थायी वास, कैंप, चावड़ी, स्थान, डेरा, बसेरा होता है। इसलिए बाद में मैंने शब्दकोश का संदर्भ देकर सुधार कर 'अहरा' लिखा था।
Lalit Sati Feb 20, 2009:
rtpushpa is right. लेकिन हिंदी में इसे "आहार" लिखेंगे। कृपया देखें: "...तत्पश्‍चात्‌ प्रान्त आहार (विषय) में विभक्‍त था ।(hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/मगध_महाजनपद)"
Lalit Sati Feb 20, 2009:
AHARA - any historical significance??
Lalit Sati Feb 20, 2009:
भारत के इतिहास में लगभग 300 ई. पू. से 300 ई. के बीच इस शब्द का किन अर्थों में प्रयोग हुआ है? क्या किसी प्रशासनिक इकाई के तौर पर इसका प्रयोग हुआ है?
Lalit Sati Feb 20, 2009:
अहरा (AHARA) शब्द का अर्थ http://pustak.org/bs/home.php?mean=9293 पर इस प्रकार दिया गया है : अहरा पुं.[सं.आहरण-इकट्ठा करना] 1.कोई चीज पकाने के लिए बनाया हुआ कंडों का ढेर। 2.कंडे जलाकर तैयार की हुई आग। 3.मनुष्यों के ठहरने का स्थान। 4.दे.आहर।
Lalit Sati Feb 19, 2009:
IMO it should be ANDHRA

Proposed translations

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अहरा

In case of Shatavahanas, who belonged to Andhra, the term may refer to a hill, because in the Telugu language, 'ahara' means a hill, same as 'konda' (as in case of 'Golkonda fort'). And in all probability, Mauryans may be using the term 'ahara' for a halting place, because in Hindi 'ahara' means ठहरने का स्थान (a halting place). (Reference: R.C.Pathak's Adarsh Hindi Shabdkosh).

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In the book titled 'A History of India' By Hermann Kulke, Dietmar Rothermund I find in the context of Shatavahanas administration that they copied the Mauryan system of administration, where the empire was divided into districts (ahara) headed by imperial officers (amatya). So I am confident that the term ahara (अहरा) means a district, both in case of Shatavahanas and Mauryans.


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I stand corrected. The entry may be treated as आहार. (In the book 'Indian Epigraphy' by D.C.Sircar, it is mentioned that the Sarnath piller edict of Ashoka also mentions Ahara to indicate a district. I feel, even in English it should always be spelt with capital 'A' to denote the sound 'आ'.
Peer comment(s):

agree Lalit Sati : आपकी बाद वाली टिप्पणी से मैं एकदम सहमत हूँ, लेकिन हिंदी में इसे "आहार" लिखा जाना चाहिए।
7 hrs
धन्यवाद!
agree Suyash Suprabh
11 hrs
धन्यवाद!
agree Ruchi Agarwal
16 hrs
धन्यवाद
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अहारा

Ahara अहारा
search.eci.gov.in/XML/S24AC190P3.xml

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On further search, I found it written as अहरा. And I found out from various dictionaries that अहरा means a place. So, I would like to correct myself.
My entry may be treated as अहरा.
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2 hrs
Hindi term (edited): Andhra

आंध्र

मुझे यकीन है कि इसे आंध्र होना चाहिए।

The Satvahanas were also referred to as the Andhra dynasty, and it is they who gave the name to the region between Krishna & Godavari as Andhra desh. They established their power during the general confusion caused by the decline of the Mauryan empire.
(http://indiansaga.com/history/kushana.html)

`Andhra' is the name given to it since the medieval times. Some argued that `Telugu' was a corruption of `Trilinga' (Sanskrit meaning three `lingas'). A general description of the land of the Telugus was made in the medieval times as `the land marked by three lingas of the three famous shrines of Draksharamam (East Godavari district), Kaleswaram (Karimnagar district) and Srisailam (Kurnool district).
(http://www.teluguworld.org/language.html)

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कृपया इस लिंक को देखें
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Andhra_Pradesh

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It is only in the Mauryan age, there is historical evidence of the existence of Andhra as a political power in the southeastern Deccan......Asoka referred in his 13th rock edict (232 BC) that Andhra was under his rule...........The continuous political and cultural accounts of Andhra Pradesh begins with the fall of the Mauryan Empire. It commences with the rise of the Satavahanas as a political power. According to Matsya Purana there were 29 rulers of this dynasty. They ruled over the Andhra desa for about 456 years from the 2nd century BCE to the 2nd century CE. According to an inscription at Nasik, it was under Gautamiputra Satakarni, the 23rd Satavahavana, the kingdom included most of the southern peninsula and some southern parts of present Indian states like Maharastra, Orissa and MadhyaPradesh. The court language used by Satavahanas was Prakrit.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Andhra_Pradesh)

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ahara - आहार
पुष्पा जी के उत्तर में दूसरी टिप्पणी पर सहमति जताने के बाद मैंने कहा कि इसे आहार लिखना चाहिए, इसके लिए मैं यह लिंक देखने का सुझाव दे रहा हूँ।
http://books.google.com/books?id=78I5lDHU2jQC&pg=PA107&lpg=P...
इसमें जिस तरह लिखा गया है उससे यही लगता है कि हिंदी में इसे आहार लिखा जाएगा। यद्यपि इस शब्द की उत्पत्ति के बारे में मैं बहुत स्पष्ट नहीं हूँ। दूसरे, इतने प्राचीन काल के इतिहास में ऐसे अनेक शब्द मिलते हैं जो सिर्फ इतिहास की पुस्तकों में ही दर्ज हैं, शब्दकोशों में शामिल नहीं हैं।
Peer comment(s):

neutral C.M. Rawal : ललित जी, परंतु यह शब्द तो हिंदी शब्दकोशों में शामिल है। अगर कोई संदेह हो तो हमें इतिहास की पुस्तकों से संदर्भ ढूँढ़ना चाहिए। अंग्रेजी की वर्तनी के आधार पर इसे आहार मान लेना गलत होगा क्योंकि अहरा शब्द अपने सही अर्थों के साथ हिंदी शब्दकोशों में मौजूद है।
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मैंने उपलब्ध शब्दकोशों में 'अहरा' देखा था, लेकिन वह मौजूदा संदर्भ में बहुत अर्थप्रद न लगा। दो लिंक में समानता के कारण मुझे 'आहार' अधिक सही लगा। इसी संदर्भ में आहार के अलावा राष्ट्र, प्रांत जैसे शब्द भी देखने को मिले हैं।
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