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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Referenzwein

English translation:

reference wine

Added to glossary by Lesley Robertson MA, Dip Trans IoLET
Jan 13, 2009 11:15
15 yrs ago
German term

Referenzwein

German to English Marketing Wine / Oenology / Viticulture
I've found what it is
http://weinverkostungen.de/referenzwein/
but I can't find the English term for it
Proposed translations (English)
2 +6 reference wine
3 +2 archetypical (Bordeaux, etc.)
2 +1 benchmark wine
References
Benchmark wine - not a perfect match with "Referenzwein"?
Change log

Jan 13, 2009 11:20: Steffen Walter changed "Field" from "Other" to "Marketing"

Proposed translations

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10 mins
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reference wine

I could not find a proper term when searching for it. But I remember, when I was working in labs we had a lot of reference things. Usually there where no proper terms for it as well, so you just put the "reference" in front of it.
Peer comment(s):
agree David Moore (X)
32 mins
agree Helen Shiner : According to my researches, this is the correct term - wine for reference or reference wine: http://www.avenuevine.com/archives/2006_07.html (article part way down on making and maturing wine.)/See Tasting 2 section.
44 mins
agree Alison MacG : Does seem to be used, e.g. "This is the reference wine of Vega Sicilia, although it shares its special character with the rest of the wines from the winery." http://www.midvalleywine.com/r/products/vega-sicilia-unico-r...
1 hr
agree Inge Meinzer : According to Lesley's source, this term can be used for a varietal wine as well as one that is typical for a specific method of vinification.
2 hrs
agree Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
2 hrs
agree Alfredo Vargas : Google "reference wine" and you'll find many references in the lab or wine tasting context.
2 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thankyou. I did some more research and reference wines certainly seemed to be the one i needed!"
+1
20 mins

benchmark wine

... might be what you're looking for.

See, for example,

http://www.burgundy-report.com/wp/?p=900

http://www.allbusiness.com/services/business-services/396961...
"Representing the pinnacle of Barossa Shiraz, this benchmark wine consists of grapes from some of Australia's oldest vines."

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Note added at 21 mins (2009-01-13 11:37:09 GMT)
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Please also note the URL http://www.benchmarkwine.com
Peer comment(s):
neutral Paul Cohen : My initial thought as well. But my confidence level isn't very high on this term (see ref. below).
2 mins
Agreed, "archetyp(ic)al" is certainly better.
agree Heike Schwarz
11 mins
agree Ivan Nieves
16 mins
disagree David Moore (X) : Having looked at Paul's "reference" (did that mean "benchmark" too, I ask myself?), I cannot see this being the term wanted.
23 mins
You might be right, but this is exactly why I chose "low confidence".
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+2
49 mins

archetypical (Bordeaux, etc.)

Perhaps you could use the adjective 'archetypical' to describe your wine.

"Unquestionably the 1990 is the finest, most archetypical Latour since the 1982 and 1970."
http://auction.morrellwineauctions.com/lotdescription.do?auc...

Example sentence:

This is an archetypical Chateau Margaux of richness, finesse, balance and symmetry.

This is an archetypical Bordeaux for all those who appreciate elegance and class instead of fruit dominance and alcohol power.

Peer comment(s):
agree Steffen Walter : Or "archetypal". See http://www.lescaves.co.uk/wine_rack/ferment_article/sermon_o... -"I caricature the positions, yet when we think of France or Australia, we have a clear idea of the archetypal wine produced in those respective countries..."
6 mins
Cheers, Steffen (no pun intended). Yes, "archetypal" is often used. "The wine of the Medoc would probably be considered the archetypal Bordeaux."
neutral David Moore (X) : Hmmmm... IMO, the context is not absolutely right for this.// To me, the context is wine-tasting in general, while (to me, again) this is a little too specific.
1 hr
What exactly is the context? The Asker hasn't given us the sentence where the term appears.
agree Jonathan MacKerron : this would certainly fit the tone of Lesley's link
2 hrs
and it's definitely wine lingo
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Reference comments

37 mins
Reference:

Benchmark wine - not a perfect match with "Referenzwein"?

The term "benchmark wine" is often used to designate wines that are excellent, in other words, it appears to go beyond the archetypical ("prototypisch") characteristics definition that Lesley has cited for "Referenzwein".

Example:
"Now let me ask you a question; why would you not recommend something that is not excellent? Isn't a "recommended" rating i.e a wine that is "a good quality wine" worth recommending and drinking? Why does it have to be "excellent" i.e., a benchmark wine to get a recommendation?"
http://wineamateur.blogspot.com/2006/07/why-wine-scoring-sys...
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree David Moore (X) : I certainly agree with this, but that begs the question: how could you agree with Steffen?
4 mins
Because I was about to suggest "benchmark wine" myself (with a low CL). But I'm having doubts - and I've changed my initial 'agree' to a comment.
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