Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
El Título de Médico Cirujano
English translation:
The Degree of Physician & Surgeon
Added to glossary by
Henry Hinds
Aug 30, 2002 00:23
21 yrs ago
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Spanish term
El Título de Médico Cirujano
Spanish to English
Other
"a University degree from Mexico"
This is from a degree from La Salle University in Mexico.
Proposed translations
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Proposed translations
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The Degree of Physician & Surgeon
That's how it's said.
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You\'re lucky it does not say \"Médico Cirujano y Partero\". Not a \"midhusband\" of course, but a \"Birth Attendant\". It\'s actually part of the official name, they can all at least deliver a baby supposedly.
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This is just the general medical degree; from this they can go into a medical specialty.
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You\'re lucky it does not say \"Médico Cirujano y Partero\". Not a \"midhusband\" of course, but a \"Birth Attendant\". It\'s actually part of the official name, they can all at least deliver a baby supposedly.
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This is just the general medical degree; from this they can go into a medical specialty.
Reference:
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Physician and Surgeon
In the USA we use M.D. (medical doctor), which includes training in both medicine and surgery. However, when translating the name of a Mexican medical degree I would suggest this option.
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Surgeon degree
Declined
Surgeon alone captures the idea of Médico Cirujano. In other words, there are no surgeons that are not medical in some way or another.
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The degree of Doctor of Surgery
This is how I've heard it said.
And, here's are some references to support it (notice are from faculties of medicine):
Faculty of Medicine Degree Regulations - Calendar 2001-02 - ... - ... of Dental Science; Doctor of Dental Surgery; Doctor of Medicine; Doctor of Philosophy (Integrated) in Biomolecular Medicine; Doctor of Science; Doctor of Surgery; ...
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/calendar/medicine/
Interfaculty Handbook 2002 - The University of Western Australia - ... (4) Candidates for the degree of Doctor of Surgery must have at least four years’ clinical training in surgery and be able to satisfy the Faculty of Medicine ...
http://www.publishing.uwa.edu.au/handbooks/interfaculty/High...
Hope that helps you.
And, here's are some references to support it (notice are from faculties of medicine):
Faculty of Medicine Degree Regulations - Calendar 2001-02 - ... - ... of Dental Science; Doctor of Dental Surgery; Doctor of Medicine; Doctor of Philosophy (Integrated) in Biomolecular Medicine; Doctor of Science; Doctor of Surgery; ...
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/calendar/medicine/
Interfaculty Handbook 2002 - The University of Western Australia - ... (4) Candidates for the degree of Doctor of Surgery must have at least four years’ clinical training in surgery and be able to satisfy the Faculty of Medicine ...
http://www.publishing.uwa.edu.au/handbooks/interfaculty/High...
Hope that helps you.
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Mr XXX, Bachelor of Surgery
See:-
Education Update - MEDICAL UPDATE - ... Surgeon Titles: Dr. vs. ... students must attain a Bachelor of Medicine and a Bachelor of Surgery ... 1150-1500) it became used for any learned man or medical ...
http://www.educationupdate.com/sept01/pages/med_croft.html
A Glossary of Health Professional Titles - ... list below explains some of the titles ... BSW, MSW: Bachelor of science in ... However, chiropractors are not medical doctors and are not licensed to perform surgery ...
http://www.arthritis.org/conditions/alttherapies/glossary.as...
Key to Professional Titles - Key to Professional Titles Meanings of ... CFP Certified Feldenkrais Practitioner; Ch.B. Bachelor of Surgery; C ... College of Psychiatry; HMD Homeopathic Medical ...
http://www.natural-connection.com/resource/tnc_reference_lib...
Vejledning ang. oversættelser (dansk-engelsk) af titler og ... - ... of Science (også BSc) MCh = Master of Surgery (Magister Chirurgial)(UK, Irl.) BAO = Bachelor ... er »medical graduate«). 2) AKADEMISKE GRADER I MEDICIN. Dr ...
http://www.dadlnet.dk/2laegeforeningen/medlemmer/titler.htm
Puneet Chandak, M - ... Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS) 1983-87: College of Medical Sciences and Safdarjung Hospital, Delhi University. PUBLICATIONS. Electronic Educational Titles: ...
http://brighamrad.harvard.edu/education/online/Cardiac/PC/PC...
Courses and Academic Programs - ... Nursing, Bachelor of Nursing Science (graduate entry) Graduate ... There is an increasing demand for medical and ... Please refer to the handbook for subject titles and ...
http://www.medfac.unimelb.edu.au/med/courseAcProg.asp
Professional Acronym & Abbreviation Glossary - A Guide to Medical ... - ... on practice requirements for select specialties contact the medical ... B. BA - Bachelor of Arts Degree.*. BAMS - Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery ...
http://diabetes.about.com/library/bldegrees.htm
Where did the 2000 Bachelor of Medicine & Bachelor of Surgery ... - ... the following questions about Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor ... Surgery. ... Employers, Job Titles. SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ASSOCIATE ... u Man Cheong Medical Center. u Doctor. ...
http://www.hku.hk/cepc/leaflet2000/Medicine/MBBS.html
Admision-Grados - Academic Degrees and Professional Titles. ... in Letters) Journalism for bachelor ... Doctor (MD) Ph.D. in Medical ... Clinical Laboratory - Dermatology - General Surgery ...
http://www.puc.cl/dara/admision/ingles/e_under.html
Administrative Medical Careers - ... After surgery the Transplant Coordinators ... Nurse or Physician Assistant - Bachelor of ... Medical Records Technicians Medical ... DOT (Dictionary of Occupational Titles ...
http://www.calmis.cahwnet.gov/file/occguide/MEDADMIN.HTM
KiwiCareers - Medical Pathologist / Print Page - ... Alternative Titles. Pathologist; Anatomical Pathologist; Haematologist; ... Tertiary Education A medical pathologist must ... of Medicine and a Bachelor of Surgery ...
http://www.careers.co.nz/jobs/3c_doc/j26231x.htm
National Safety Council's Safety & Health International Hall of ... - ... a double bachelors degree (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery ... program; member, ICAO Study Group of Medical ... A few of the titles include: "Alcohol ...
http://www.nsc.org/insidensc/shhofi/biolane.htm
Degree Ceremonies (MICROSOFT WORD) - ... as only a small selection of the titles is ... of Public Health (MPH) (1978). Master of Medical ... of Science (BSc). Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery ...
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/ltsn/tqau/order.doc
UCLA Surgery | Rawnsley, Jeffrey D. MD, MS Bio - ... He received his Bachelor of Arts degree ... Division of Head and Neck Surgery; Attending Surgeon, Olive View UCLA Medical ... Titles: Assistant Professor. Memberships in ...
http://www.surgery.medsch.ucla.edu/asp/Doctors.asp?emp_name=... .
The School of Advanced Nursing The School of Advanced Nursing of ... - The School of Nursing of Beijing Medical ... Students receive a Bachelor's degree upon ... courses in internal medicine nursing, surgery ... whom 10 have high rank titles ...
http://www.bjmu.edu.cn/E_bjmu/E-dw/E-huli.htm
KU-Wichita: University Relations - Stylebook Guide - ... apostrophe in the short form: bachelor's ... of Medicine-Wichita Orthopaedic Surgery ... physicians, resident physicians and medical ... Use generic titles or descriptions ...
http://wichita.kumc.edu/ur/styleguide.htm
Clinical Sciences Academic Staff - ... Division of Clinical Sciences Bachelor of Medical ... of Tasmania Bachelor of Medicine-Bachelor of Surgery ... Other duties Head of Division Clinical Titles ...
http://www.admin.utas.edu.au/HANDBOOKS/ARCHIVE/UTASHBKS97/ST...
Job Titles By Group - Human Resources - The University of Texas ... - ... NURSING TITLES (1009 - 1089) ... Evaluates and assigns calls to CPIDC medical staff ... School of Nursing with a Bachelor ... surgical care to patients undergoing surgery ...
http://www.uthct.edu/cgi-pl/uthctjba/jbgplist.pl?group=1009
http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/osu/newsrel/Archive/99-04-06_T... - ... in Surveying degree to the Bachelor of ... husband, supports the advancement of medical ... in the field of orthopedic surgery ... Emeritus titles granted. Trustees granted ...
http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/osu/newsrel/Archive/99-04-06_T...
3123 Other Professional Occupations in Health Diagnosing and ... - ... Example Titles chiropodist doctor of osteopathy ... manipulative therapy, medications or surgery. ... following completion of a bachelor's ... A one-year medical residency ...
http://cnp2001noc.worklogic.com/e/groups/3123.shtml
Education Update - MEDICAL UPDATE - ... Surgeon Titles: Dr. vs. ... students must attain a Bachelor of Medicine and a Bachelor of Surgery ... 1150-1500) it became used for any learned man or medical ...
http://www.educationupdate.com/sept01/pages/med_croft.html
A Glossary of Health Professional Titles - ... list below explains some of the titles ... BSW, MSW: Bachelor of science in ... However, chiropractors are not medical doctors and are not licensed to perform surgery ...
http://www.arthritis.org/conditions/alttherapies/glossary.as...
Key to Professional Titles - Key to Professional Titles Meanings of ... CFP Certified Feldenkrais Practitioner; Ch.B. Bachelor of Surgery; C ... College of Psychiatry; HMD Homeopathic Medical ...
http://www.natural-connection.com/resource/tnc_reference_lib...
Vejledning ang. oversættelser (dansk-engelsk) af titler og ... - ... of Science (også BSc) MCh = Master of Surgery (Magister Chirurgial)(UK, Irl.) BAO = Bachelor ... er »medical graduate«). 2) AKADEMISKE GRADER I MEDICIN. Dr ...
http://www.dadlnet.dk/2laegeforeningen/medlemmer/titler.htm
Puneet Chandak, M - ... Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS) 1983-87: College of Medical Sciences and Safdarjung Hospital, Delhi University. PUBLICATIONS. Electronic Educational Titles: ...
http://brighamrad.harvard.edu/education/online/Cardiac/PC/PC...
Courses and Academic Programs - ... Nursing, Bachelor of Nursing Science (graduate entry) Graduate ... There is an increasing demand for medical and ... Please refer to the handbook for subject titles and ...
http://www.medfac.unimelb.edu.au/med/courseAcProg.asp
Professional Acronym & Abbreviation Glossary - A Guide to Medical ... - ... on practice requirements for select specialties contact the medical ... B. BA - Bachelor of Arts Degree.*. BAMS - Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery ...
http://diabetes.about.com/library/bldegrees.htm
Where did the 2000 Bachelor of Medicine & Bachelor of Surgery ... - ... the following questions about Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor ... Surgery. ... Employers, Job Titles. SELF-EMPLOYED AS AN ASSOCIATE ... u Man Cheong Medical Center. u Doctor. ...
http://www.hku.hk/cepc/leaflet2000/Medicine/MBBS.html
Admision-Grados - Academic Degrees and Professional Titles. ... in Letters) Journalism for bachelor ... Doctor (MD) Ph.D. in Medical ... Clinical Laboratory - Dermatology - General Surgery ...
http://www.puc.cl/dara/admision/ingles/e_under.html
Administrative Medical Careers - ... After surgery the Transplant Coordinators ... Nurse or Physician Assistant - Bachelor of ... Medical Records Technicians Medical ... DOT (Dictionary of Occupational Titles ...
http://www.calmis.cahwnet.gov/file/occguide/MEDADMIN.HTM
KiwiCareers - Medical Pathologist / Print Page - ... Alternative Titles. Pathologist; Anatomical Pathologist; Haematologist; ... Tertiary Education A medical pathologist must ... of Medicine and a Bachelor of Surgery ...
http://www.careers.co.nz/jobs/3c_doc/j26231x.htm
National Safety Council's Safety & Health International Hall of ... - ... a double bachelors degree (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery ... program; member, ICAO Study Group of Medical ... A few of the titles include: "Alcohol ...
http://www.nsc.org/insidensc/shhofi/biolane.htm
Degree Ceremonies (MICROSOFT WORD) - ... as only a small selection of the titles is ... of Public Health (MPH) (1978). Master of Medical ... of Science (BSc). Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery ...
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/ltsn/tqau/order.doc
UCLA Surgery | Rawnsley, Jeffrey D. MD, MS Bio - ... He received his Bachelor of Arts degree ... Division of Head and Neck Surgery; Attending Surgeon, Olive View UCLA Medical ... Titles: Assistant Professor. Memberships in ...
http://www.surgery.medsch.ucla.edu/asp/Doctors.asp?emp_name=... .
The School of Advanced Nursing The School of Advanced Nursing of ... - The School of Nursing of Beijing Medical ... Students receive a Bachelor's degree upon ... courses in internal medicine nursing, surgery ... whom 10 have high rank titles ...
http://www.bjmu.edu.cn/E_bjmu/E-dw/E-huli.htm
KU-Wichita: University Relations - Stylebook Guide - ... apostrophe in the short form: bachelor's ... of Medicine-Wichita Orthopaedic Surgery ... physicians, resident physicians and medical ... Use generic titles or descriptions ...
http://wichita.kumc.edu/ur/styleguide.htm
Clinical Sciences Academic Staff - ... Division of Clinical Sciences Bachelor of Medical ... of Tasmania Bachelor of Medicine-Bachelor of Surgery ... Other duties Head of Division Clinical Titles ...
http://www.admin.utas.edu.au/HANDBOOKS/ARCHIVE/UTASHBKS97/ST...
Job Titles By Group - Human Resources - The University of Texas ... - ... NURSING TITLES (1009 - 1089) ... Evaluates and assigns calls to CPIDC medical staff ... School of Nursing with a Bachelor ... surgical care to patients undergoing surgery ...
http://www.uthct.edu/cgi-pl/uthctjba/jbgplist.pl?group=1009
http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/osu/newsrel/Archive/99-04-06_T... - ... in Surveying degree to the Bachelor of ... husband, supports the advancement of medical ... in the field of orthopedic surgery ... Emeritus titles granted. Trustees granted ...
http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/osu/newsrel/Archive/99-04-06_T...
3123 Other Professional Occupations in Health Diagnosing and ... - ... Example Titles chiropodist doctor of osteopathy ... manipulative therapy, medications or surgery. ... following completion of a bachelor's ... A one-year medical residency ...
http://cnp2001noc.worklogic.com/e/groups/3123.shtml
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degree in surgical medicine / degree in surgery
In the UK as a first (or undergraduate) degree you would just get a BA in medicine and then specialise later on.
the subject you describe, sounds more like something that would be offered at masters level - see below:
http://www.gu.edu.au/ua/aa/pccat/program/5011_01.htm
the subject you describe, sounds more like something that would be offered at masters level - see below:
http://www.gu.edu.au/ua/aa/pccat/program/5011_01.htm
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My contribution to complement the suggestions given by other colleagues
My contribution to complement the suggestions given by Henry, Alan and Chadwick:
The problem here is complex:
On the one hand, the commonest first university degree in the USA is “Bachelor” (usually 4 years), and in our countries (at least in Venezuela) is “Licenciado” (usually 5 years).
On the other hand, the case of physicians is special:
Firstly, they are not called “bachelors” in the USA or “licenciados” in this part of the continent.
Secondly, the course of study that they follow differs from those of other “licenciaturas”: In Venezuela (and I believe that also in Mexico), upon graduation (undergraduate course of study: 7 years), they are conferred the degree of “Médico Cirujano”.
But for legal and practical purposes, this degree of “Médico Cirujano” is equivalent to any other “licenciatura”, and to that of a Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery, according to R.J. Chadwick’s references.
To become “Cirujanos”, the “médicos cirujanos” must follow a post-graduate course in surgery (at least 2 years).
Degree in Medicine and Surgery.
The Degree of Physician & Surgeon
Thus, as these colleagues say, and in spite of the common use of M.D. in the USA, it is preferably to use “Degree in Medicine and Surgery” or “Degree of Physician & Surgeon” because it is both descriptive, and “degree” may be “bachelor”, “licentiate” or any other.
Saludos cordiales desde Caracas.
Manuel
The problem here is complex:
On the one hand, the commonest first university degree in the USA is “Bachelor” (usually 4 years), and in our countries (at least in Venezuela) is “Licenciado” (usually 5 years).
On the other hand, the case of physicians is special:
Firstly, they are not called “bachelors” in the USA or “licenciados” in this part of the continent.
Secondly, the course of study that they follow differs from those of other “licenciaturas”: In Venezuela (and I believe that also in Mexico), upon graduation (undergraduate course of study: 7 years), they are conferred the degree of “Médico Cirujano”.
But for legal and practical purposes, this degree of “Médico Cirujano” is equivalent to any other “licenciatura”, and to that of a Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery, according to R.J. Chadwick’s references.
To become “Cirujanos”, the “médicos cirujanos” must follow a post-graduate course in surgery (at least 2 years).
Degree in Medicine and Surgery.
The Degree of Physician & Surgeon
Thus, as these colleagues say, and in spite of the common use of M.D. in the USA, it is preferably to use “Degree in Medicine and Surgery” or “Degree of Physician & Surgeon” because it is both descriptive, and “degree” may be “bachelor”, “licentiate” or any other.
Saludos cordiales desde Caracas.
Manuel
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Yvonne Becker
: Interesante explicación // Te llegó tan tarde porque lo vi 1456 días después cuando buscaba el mismo término
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Gracias, Yvonne. Interesante es la forma/velocidad con que me llegan los mensajes de Proz: 1462 días después...
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medical doctor
A bilingual Mexican physician whose diploma I translated assured me that "medical cirujano" corresponds nothing more than "medical doctor". To call a "médico cirujano" a surgeon would be reading too much into the title.
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Dawn Gable
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Jeanette Anderson
: I have also been told the same thing from a Mexican client.
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