Apr 3, 2008 23:21
16 yrs ago
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French term
France
sociétaux
French to English
Social Sciences
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
Part of a title from a document about employment conditions and the position of a certain business in the local community etc. The full title is "Défis sociaux et sociétaux". I'd preferably like to avoid "social and societal". Althought accurate, the client wants a much more "rédactionnel" style.
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Labour-relations and community issues
Though personally I'm not convinced that changing the words constitutes "rédactionnel", especially for a title when we have not seen the content of the article.
Getting really redactionnel (and vague) now, how about "People Issues Inside and Outside the Company"?
Of course some people might say you cannot issue Firth, only issue Forth.
Getting really redactionnel (and vague) now, how about "People Issues Inside and Outside the Company"?
Of course some people might say you cannot issue Firth, only issue Forth.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "A tough one to answer without providing you with more context! I settled for the "labour-relations and community" angle because social in this context referred more to trade unions etc. than society in general, and "sociétaux" was less about companies than wider "responsibility" issues in society. Very slippery words in French, but usually much easier to pin-point in an English text."
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Laszlo Kocsis
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corporate and social challenges
or challenges for the businesses and the society
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Note added at 42 mins (2008-04-04 00:03:10 GMT)
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We acted independently and simultaneously with Kati , is this telepathy?
Enjeux sociaux et sociétaux --comes as social and corporate implications,impacts
Les impacts sociaux et sociétaux des activités de Gaz de France sont au cœur de son engagement. Le Groupe se place dans une dynamique de responsabilité sociale d'entreprise vis-à-vis de tous ses publics : société civile, clients, collaborateurs, partenaires...
www.gazdefrance.com
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Note added at 42 mins (2008-04-04 00:03:10 GMT)
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We acted independently and simultaneously with Kati , is this telepathy?
Enjeux sociaux et sociétaux --comes as social and corporate implications,impacts
Les impacts sociaux et sociétaux des activités de Gaz de France sont au cœur de son engagement. Le Groupe se place dans une dynamique de responsabilité sociale d'entreprise vis-à-vis de tous ses publics : société civile, clients, collaborateurs, partenaires...
www.gazdefrance.com
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Melissa McMahon
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Thank you, Melissa
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Katarina Peters
: Of course, (I was thinking in reverse order when I posted my answer...)
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Thank You, Kati
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Elizabeth Lyons
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Thank you, Elizabeth
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Assimina Vavoula
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Thank you, Assimina
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Victoria Porter-Burns
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Thank you,Victoria
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B D Finch
: Works well as a headline.
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Thank you
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Julie Barber
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Thank you
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Katarina Peters
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Corporate
"Social and Corporate Challenges"
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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-04-04 01:51:53 GMT)
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Sorry, I fell into the common trap: it should be indeed
"Corporate and Social Challenges", as Vandor said later.
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Note added at 2 hrs (2008-04-04 01:51:53 GMT)
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Sorry, I fell into the common trap: it should be indeed
"Corporate and Social Challenges", as Vandor said later.
Peer comment(s):
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Melissa McMahon
: Not the other way around? ie societaux = social & corporate = sociaux?/No worries - wanted to explain my support for the other one.
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You are right, Melissa, thank you for pointing it out.
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challenges facing society
Hello,
Aren't "social" and "societal" really synonyms for one another? Why not just combine them into one in English?
Btw, I never knew that "sociétal" has anything to do with a corporation/company? Yes, I know that "société" can be a company, but it's adjectival form doesn't seem to mean "relating to a business/company/corporation." "Société" is a company, not just a business.
I hope this helps.
Aren't "social" and "societal" really synonyms for one another? Why not just combine them into one in English?
Btw, I never knew that "sociétal" has anything to do with a corporation/company? Yes, I know that "société" can be a company, but it's adjectival form doesn't seem to mean "relating to a business/company/corporation." "Société" is a company, not just a business.
I hope this helps.
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Sylvia Valls
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social and association related or communitarian
I agree with Mathew's comment but I don´t think they would use two terms for one... I for one feel we need more info. I take sociétaux to pertains to sociétés... which could be companies but more likelycivil associations or communitarian groupings. Perhaps Steven will be able to get to a right sounding term both for style and content with these suggestions and the additional info he has... I would not go for corporate, somehow... business associations if the rest of the content so justifies. Too much dilemma and chances of making a mistake in order to avoid a not so bad stylistic flaw, which has not necessaritly been avoided in the original!...
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