English term
Fits well
Fits well
Sexy
Stylish
High quality
Freedom of movement
Innovative
Flattering
Wrinkle, crease resistant
Shape retention
Washable
contexte : caractéristiques de vêtements
Jan 16, 2007 15:29: Tony M changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Non-PRO (1): Stéphanie Soudais
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Proposed translations
S'ajuste bien au corps/bonne coupe
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Tony M
: C'est-ce que j'aurais dit !
8 mins
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hirselina
: A mon avis, ce terme n'a pas du tout le même sens que "seyant"
23 mins
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mchd
: de bonne coupe me semble bien convenir
30 mins
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Helene Martin-Hernandez
: Je voterais pour "s'ajuste bien au corps" (qui rejoint un peu "coupe ajustée") parce que si c'est sur une étiquette par exemple, je vois mal le créateur dire que c'est une bonne coupe (pourquoi vendrait-il une mauvaise coupe?). Il nous faut du contexte!
53 mins
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Odette Grille (X)
: ajusté
1 hr
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Assimina Vavoula
2 hrs
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Claire Chapman
14 hrs
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Hebat-Allah El Ashmawy
1 day 34 mins
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coupe ajustée
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Tony M
: That would normally be "snug fit", suggesting that it is (desirably) tight; this may not necessarily be what is intended here
2 mins
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seyant
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Note added at 16 mins (2007-01-16 15:43:08 GMT)
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Pour répondre à Tony, je pense qu'ici, on parle d'un vêtement qui "va bien" à tout le monde (pas à quelqu'un en particulier). C'est plus ou moins ce que veut dire "seyant" (qui sied, qui convient, qui va bien), ça rejoint ce que dit Elizabeth qui parle de "bonne coupe"
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Stéphanie Soudais
1 min
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Catherine Lenoir
: Je n'aurais pas trouvé mieux...
2 mins
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Tony M
: No, I believe that means "fitting" in the sense of "suitable, appropriate", which is not at all the meaning here (= à sa taille) // Croyez moi, ce n'est pas le même sens, même si cela se rapproche... // C'est une nuance en anglais...
3 mins
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Céline Débiton
3 mins
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GILLES MEUNIER
: c'est court et juste....
38 mins
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Odette Grille (X)
: pour stylish, mais ajusté, c'est pas toujours seyant
1 hr
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Film and book translations
Native in: Romanian 
Works in: French to Romanian, Romanian to French, English to French, and 1 more.
je le vois comme "facile a combiner" avec les autres elements d'une tenue
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Note added at 4 mins (2007-01-16 15:30:58 GMT)
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à
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Note added at 5 mins (2007-01-16 15:32:13 GMT)
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ou bien, si on comprend l'autre sens, je dirais FLUIDE
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Note added at 18 mins (2007-01-16 15:44:53 GMT)
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COUPE AVANTAGEUSE
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Tony M
: No, that's not the sense of "to fit" here; // Chuis pas sûr... ça veut plutôt dire "ample", non ? // Désolé, en anglais ce n'est POINT ambigu ; seul problème, c'est la façon de l'exprimer en FR, selon l'utilisation...
1 min
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Ca, oui !
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hirselina
: Ce n'est pas le sens de l'anglais
29 mins
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ca parait
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COMMENT ONLY, NFG
If my understanding of the FR word is correct, it means, in general terms, that the dress or whatever suits the person wearing it. Now I'm sorry, but that is in NO WAY the same as saying that it fits them well — though of course, that might also be true.
It is perfectly possible for a garment to fit me perfectly, like a glove, but not to suit me at all; equally, it could be that some piece of clothing might not really be quite the right size for me, and yet somehow, surprisingly, it might still suit me.
« Même si ce n'est pas vraiment à sa taille, je le trouve seyant quand même » — would it be possible to say that in FR?
Normally, when talking about one garment for one person, we'd say « à ma taille », wouldn't we?
But here (and this is where the confusion comes in, since we don't know how these expressions are being used), it is more generally "when I choose a garment, the factors that are important to me are: ... b) that it fits (me) well
This involves lots of factors, as others have said; it may be to do with the availability in a range of sizes; also, that the garment is suitably scaled (baggy tracksuit / tailored jacket / clingy evening gown), and that it works well for people of all different shapes — for example, I have trouble finding shirts that fit me well, as my large neck means the sleeves are always too long for me, and the body too baggy...
So I think we are indeed talking about the "coupe" — but of course, different kinds of coupe are appropriate for different classes of garment; a close-fitting cut might be entirely appropriate for one type of garment, but not at all suitable for another.
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