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Nov 15, 2006 21:26
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ante

español al inglés Jurídico/Patentes Derecho: contrato(s)
SE CONSTITUYE FIADORA HASTA POR LA SUMA DE $ (MONTO DE LA FIANZA) ANTE, A FAVOR Y A DISPOSICIÓN DE (PEMEX, ORGANISMO SUBSIDIARIO O EMPRESA FILIAL) PARA GARANTIZAR POR ________________________________ EL DEBIDO CUMPLIMIENTO DE LAS OBLIGACIONES DERIVADAS DEL CONTRATO NÚMERO ___________________ DE FECHA _______________________ Y DE LOS ANEXOS DEL MISMO, CELEBRADO ENTRE ______________________Y NUESTRO FIADO.

Discussion

spanruss (asker) Nov 16, 2006:
Sounds possible, Richard. I'll think about it. Thanks
Richard Cadena Nov 16, 2006:
I agree. "Before" only refers to appearing in person. I think that the "guarantor" is also binding himself WITH Pemex. How does that look to you?
spanruss (asker) Nov 16, 2006:
Your impression matches mine. In fact, instinct tells me it should read something like: "up to the sum of $xxxx for, in favor of and at the disposal of (Pemex...." However, I don't see any way to equate "ante" with "for".
Ronnie McKee Nov 16, 2006:
The solutions presented don't seem to support that idea. But again, maybe they shouldn't.
Ronnie McKee Nov 16, 2006:
To me it seems like this says..is guarantor up to $$$$$....ante, a favor, y a disposicion de xxxx, S.A in order to.....................What I mean is that it seems like the three ideas"ante, a favor y a disposicion" all refer to xxxx S.A.

Proposed translations

1 hora

with

"Ante" meaning "with" refers to documents. It is also used in reference to filing a document of some type with the pertinent authorities.
"Ante" meaning "before" refers to an appearnce made in person. One can appear before a judge in court or before a notary public to have a document recorded in the notarial record book.
Hope this helps.
Reference: Tom West's Dictionary
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2 horas

hereto

here·to (hîr-t›“) adv. To this document, matter, or proposition.
The American Heritage Dictionary.

Espero te sirva de opción. Se usa mucho en los contratos.
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4 minutos

before

ante Pemex: before Pemex

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Note added at 3 hrs (2006-11-16 00:39:58 GMT)
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According to the Black's Law Dictionary "before" not only means "in the presence of" but also "at the disposal of". I think that is the correct translation of the term applicable in this context.
Note from asker:
In what sense? If what you're saying is that the bond is established in the presence of PEMEX, that doesn't seem likely. Is there some other definition of the word "before" that I'm not aware of?
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6 horas

aforesaid

It refers to a sum mentioned earlier or aforesaid in the document.

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Note added at 1 day6 hrs (2006-11-17 03:28:13 GMT)
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In case the model form has provision to describe the amount of guarantee in the earlier part, then ante can be termed to mean aforesaid when described again. If not, ante would not have that meaning.
Note from asker:
No, you are mistaken. This is only a model form for a bond. The bond itself does not exist yet.
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