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French term or phrase:
Disons...
English translation:
Hold...
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Stephanie Mitchel
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Disons...
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Pleading
Repeated many times in closing paragraphs of a pleading, e.g.:
"Disons que dès le prononcé de la présente décision, le greffe la notifiera à l'expert dans les formes prévues [etc.]
"Disons que la provision sera consignée au greffe par [X] [etc.]
"Disons qu'à défaut de consignation dans les délais prescrits, il sera fait application de l'article 271 du NCPC."
and so on.
I figure "Let's say" is a bit informal for legalese. What is customary? Thanks!
"Disons que dès le prononcé de la présente décision, le greffe la notifiera à l'expert dans les formes prévues [etc.]
"Disons que la provision sera consignée au greffe par [X] [etc.]
"Disons qu'à défaut de consignation dans les délais prescrits, il sera fait application de l'article 271 du NCPC."
and so on.
I figure "Let's say" is a bit informal for legalese. What is customary? Thanks!
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we hold, contend (or let us .....)
Checked out 'dire' in Bridge. Just a suggestion.
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Comment: "Of course! I forgot, 'dire et juger' is 'hold and order'... it stands to reason... thanks!"
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Let's say that ...
As you say, "Let's say" is a bit informal for legalese ... but that's exactly what I would use ...
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Let it be that.../It has been judged/determined/decided that...
just a couple more suggestions...
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The court ruled that
This is just another suggestion. This is what I often use (I work in a law firm). However, I agree with Laurel, I have also seen “It has been judged that...”
Here are some samples:
http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/03highlts.html
http://beebo.org/smackerels/supreme-court-decisions.html
Good luck!
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Note added at 22 hrs (2006-11-03 21:07:48 GMT)
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OR, “It has been decided and agreed as follows”
Here are some samples:
http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/03highlts.html
http://beebo.org/smackerels/supreme-court-decisions.html
Good luck!
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Note added at 22 hrs (2006-11-03 21:07:48 GMT)
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OR, “It has been decided and agreed as follows”
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Francis Marche
: Yes. Or with present tense: "Rules that" / "Orders that"
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Rabie El Magdouli
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According to the ruling,
Hello,
"It has been ruled/judged" is not what is usually seen. Even, "The court ruled" -- as natural as it may seems -- is also uncommon in a document such as this.
A contextually appropriate would be: According to the ruling,...
Disons que = Let us say [the court] that
You could possibly get away with "The court has ruled that...", as long as the verb stays in the perfect present tense. I wouldn't say "The court ruled that...", as the simple past sounds a little awkward in this legal context. Present perfect tense is imperative if you the option "The court has ruled..." At any rate, I prefer "According to the ruling, ..."
I hope this helps.
"It has been ruled/judged" is not what is usually seen. Even, "The court ruled" -- as natural as it may seems -- is also uncommon in a document such as this.
A contextually appropriate would be: According to the ruling,...
Disons que = Let us say [the court] that
You could possibly get away with "The court has ruled that...", as long as the verb stays in the perfect present tense. I wouldn't say "The court ruled that...", as the simple past sounds a little awkward in this legal context. Present perfect tense is imperative if you the option "The court has ruled..." At any rate, I prefer "According to the ruling, ..."
I hope this helps.
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