Feb 5, 2006 11:10
18 yrs ago
German term
Krachlederne
German to English
Other
Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
Lederhose
"Krachlederne, Kurze, Plattlerhose oder Ganzarschlederhose – nichts, was es nicht gibt im deutschen Lederhosen-Lexikon des Deutschen Lederhosenmuseums."
I am intending to turn this arse-about, e.g. "The German Lederhose dictionary in the ... with terms such as ...", and give translations that are as literal as possible, e.g. "whole-arse Lederhose". The trouble is, I am not sure what to do with "Krachlederne" and "Plattlerhose". Any suggestions, or just explanations of what these terms mean, would be most appreciated.
Any Bavarians out there? Tyroleans? Salzburgers?
I am intending to turn this arse-about, e.g. "The German Lederhose dictionary in the ... with terms such as ...", and give translations that are as literal as possible, e.g. "whole-arse Lederhose". The trouble is, I am not sure what to do with "Krachlederne" and "Plattlerhose". Any suggestions, or just explanations of what these terms mean, would be most appreciated.
Any Bavarians out there? Tyroleans? Salzburgers?
Proposed translations
(English)
2 | rustic | Jonathan MacKerron |
5 +5 | Explanation | Colin Newberry |
3 | silky, crunchy, scroopy | jerrie |
Change log
Feb 5, 2006 11:12: Richard Benham changed "Field (specific)" from "Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting" to "Textiles / Clothing / Fashion"
Proposed translations
2 mins
Selected
rustic
is what Duden-Oxford offers
Muret-Sanders = "blunt and outspoken, rustic; krachlederner Typ auch rough diamond, Am. diamond in the rough"
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Note added at 4 mins (2006-02-05 11:14:37 GMT)
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große Duden for krachledern = "von derb-heftiger Art: -e Musik; Ü Bayerns -e Polit-Köche essen ihr Süppchen eben weit weniger heiß, als sie es gekocht haben"
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Note added at 5 mins (2006-02-05 11:15:59 GMT)
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"kick-ass"?
Muret-Sanders = "blunt and outspoken, rustic; krachlederner Typ auch rough diamond, Am. diamond in the rough"
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Note added at 4 mins (2006-02-05 11:14:37 GMT)
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große Duden for krachledern = "von derb-heftiger Art: -e Musik; Ü Bayerns -e Polit-Köche essen ihr Süppchen eben weit weniger heiß, als sie es gekocht haben"
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Note added at 5 mins (2006-02-05 11:15:59 GMT)
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"kick-ass"?
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Jonathan, as well as Colin and Jerrie.
It's obvious Jonathan has a bigger Duden than my "Deutsches Universal-Wörterbuch", as he found 2 words in his that aren't in mine. I'll just have to save up and buy the big one!"
+5
13 mins
Explanation
I've been in Bavaria for 35 years and my better half is Bavarian thru and thru. Krachlederne is a short Lederhose, usually greasy or fatty looking (speckig) through age or being handed down thru the generations, and with a flap at the front to let down and do the obvious, which if less accurately aimed can add to the texture.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Edith Kelly
: That's the explanation all right, might be best to leave the German expression
1 hr
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Exactly, if possible leave the (I'd prefer to say) Bavaro-Tirolean expression and explain it. There can't be anything in English to match an überword like Krachlederne.
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agree |
aykon
2 hrs
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agree |
urst
: lol
4 hrs
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agree |
Rebecca Garber
: lmkrachledernearsch off
5 hrs
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agree |
Eckhard Boehle
10 hrs
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31 mins
silky, crunchy, scroopy
Hohenadel Textile W'buch gives:
krachend - scroopy, krachender Griff - scroopy, silky, crunchy handle/feel
krachen - scroop
Krachausruestung - crunch finish, scroop finish.
Link for 'scroop'...describes finish.
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Note added at 33 mins (2006-02-05 11:43:37 GMT)
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Silk is very often "brightened" and "scrooped" after dyeing; this is usually accomplished by passing the dyed goods through a bath containing acetic or tartaric acid, squeezing, drying, or steaming and stretching in a special machine.
The effect of the acid is to give the fiber a crackling or crunching sound when squeezed in the hand, which is the so-called " scroop "; while the steaming and stretching serves to straighten out the fiber and give it a high luster. In old methods of dyeing woolen goods the dyed color was frequently it saddened " by passing the goods through a bath containing copperas (sulphate of iron). The effect of this was to form an iron lake with the dyestuff (usually a vegetable mordant coloring matter), which was always darker and duller than the other lakes, and thus dulled or " saddened the color.
krachend - scroopy, krachender Griff - scroopy, silky, crunchy handle/feel
krachen - scroop
Krachausruestung - crunch finish, scroop finish.
Link for 'scroop'...describes finish.
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Note added at 33 mins (2006-02-05 11:43:37 GMT)
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Silk is very often "brightened" and "scrooped" after dyeing; this is usually accomplished by passing the dyed goods through a bath containing acetic or tartaric acid, squeezing, drying, or steaming and stretching in a special machine.
The effect of the acid is to give the fiber a crackling or crunching sound when squeezed in the hand, which is the so-called " scroop "; while the steaming and stretching serves to straighten out the fiber and give it a high luster. In old methods of dyeing woolen goods the dyed color was frequently it saddened " by passing the goods through a bath containing copperas (sulphate of iron). The effect of this was to form an iron lake with the dyestuff (usually a vegetable mordant coloring matter), which was always darker and duller than the other lakes, and thus dulled or " saddened the color.
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