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English translation: obsolete

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Spanish term or phrase:viejo (in this context)
English translation:obsolete
Entered by: Marea

19:47 Jul 13, 2005
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
Spanish term or phrase: viejo (in this context)
The document is about the State Reform.

"Nos encontramos con un Estado viejo, caro e ineficiente. Es así que un grupo de ciudadanos decidieron unirse..."

Can I use "unmodern" here? "Old" doesn't work in this context. "...an unmodern, expensive, and inefficient State"??
Marea
Paraguay
obsolete
Explanation:
another option...está muy atrasado para servir de algo
Selected response from:

Ivannia Garcia
Local time: 00:18
Grading comment
Gracias Ivannia. Saludos.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +6obsolete
Ivannia Garcia
4 +5aging
George Rabel
4 +3outdate
Edmond Laporte
5 +1Obsolete
Simon Charass
5 +1behind the times
bigedsenior
4 +1old-fashioned
Rebecca Hendry
4 +1old
mónica alfonso
4 +1that is stuck in the past
Michele Fauble
4 +1longstanding
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
4unmodern
Adriana Vozzi


  

Answers


4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
old-fashioned


Explanation:
Another idea. Suerte.

Rebecca Hendry
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:18
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): yes
22 mins
  -> Thanks Jane.
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
old


Explanation:
Suerte

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obsolete

mónica alfonso
Local time: 03:18
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  verbis
4 mins
  -> Gracias, verbis
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
unmodern


Explanation:
non-modern????
Saludos

Adriana Vozzi
Local time: 03:18
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): no...bad...with all the choices in English...don't you think really?
22 mins
  -> You are right!!!!!! Thanks Jane... Always "teaching"us!!!!!!! Muchos saludos!!!!! Gracias
neutral  jrb: nonmodern; unmodern doesn't exist
39 mins
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
obsolete


Explanation:
another option...está muy atrasado para servir de algo

Ivannia Garcia
Local time: 00:18
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Gracias Ivannia. Saludos.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Gabriela Rodriguez
6 mins
  -> Gracias, *G!!! Un saludo!!
agree  Silvia Browne
19 mins
  -> Gracias, Silvia!
agree  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): yes
20 mins
  -> Gracias, JLR!! =)
agree  Edward Potter
37 mins
  -> Gracias, Ed!!
agree  Margarita Gonzalez
59 mins
  -> Mil gracias, MargaEsther!! ;)
agree  agtranslat
21 hrs
  -> Gracias, agtrranslat!!!!
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Obsolete


Explanation:
Obsolete = no longer in use or no longer useful b : of a kind or style no longer current : Old-Fashion
[Merriam Webster Online]
[Encyclopaedia Britannica Online]


Simon Charass
Canada
Local time: 02:18
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Gabriela Rodriguez
4 mins
  -> Thanks.
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
behind the times


Explanation:
Not up to date; has not kept pace with changing times.

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LAGGING BEHIND THE TIMES: PARENTHOOD, CUSTODY, AND GENDER BIAS IN THE FAMILY COURT[*]. CYNTHIA A. MCNEELY[**]. Copyright © 1998 Cynthia A. McNeely ...
www.law.fsu.edu/journals/ lawreview/issues/254/mcneely.html - 268k - Cached - Similar pages


TIMEasia.com | Asia Buzz: Behind the Times | 12/7/2000Asia Buzz: Behind the Times Asia doesn\'t innovate too well By ERIC ELLIS December 7, 2000 Web posted at 3:40 pm Hong Kong time, 2:40 am EDT ...
www.time.com/time/asia/asiabuzz/2000/12/07/ - 27k - Cached - Similar pages


Science behind the times? - The Washington Times: CommentaryEveryone who reads Science — the journal of the lobbying organization the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) — knows it only accepts ...
www.washtimes.com/commentary/20031220-101740-6862r.htm



bigedsenior
Local time: 23:18
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): not with two other adjectives in tow
20 mins
  -> Huh?
agree  Michele Fauble: 'a state that is expensive, inefficient, and behind the times'
1 hr
  -> thanks, Michele. That's a good way to put it.
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
aging


Explanation:
another

"We found an aging, expensive, and inefficient state"

George Rabel
Local time: 02:18
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): yes why not...aging is good
12 mins
  -> thanks, Jane
agree  Marcelo González
19 mins
  -> muchas gracias, marcelo
agree  Fanny_C: Agree , even old is not bad but aging sounds better
22 mins
  -> I think so. Thanks
agree  TranslateThis
28 mins
  -> Thank you, TT.
agree  Muriel Vasconcellos
10 hrs
  -> Thank you, Muriel
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
that is stuck in the past


Explanation:
“This is an offer from a government that is stuck in the past,” said OPSEU president Leah Casselman. “Looking at their offer, it’s as if the Tories don’t ...
www.opseu.org/news/Press2002/feb152002.htm



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They have listened, particularly to the state government, and they have become ... On this issue, it is the Commonwealth that is stuck in the past; ...
www.progressivealliance.org.au/pressroom_view.php?id=48

But, how can you reach a community that is stuck in the past even in the present? ... I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its ...
www.aptn.ca/forums_disabled/ lofiversion/index.php/t239.html

They\'re going to throw out any government out that won\'t change, that is stuck in the past and rooted in its own ideology, at the expense of the people of ...
www.legis.gov.bc.ca/hansard/36th3rd/H0629Pm2.HTM

Michele Fauble
United States
Local time: 23:18
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): much too long Michele..succinctness is called for, don't you think?
15 mins
  -> 'a state that is expensive, inefficient, and stuck in the past' What's the problem with one more syllable? Do you really think that the length of a Spanish word is relevant to translating its meaning?
agree  bigedsenior
4 hrs
  -> thanks
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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
outdate


Explanation:
Another option would be anachronic.

Edmond Laporte

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): anachronic??
7 mins
agree  Edward Potter: "Outdated" sounds okay to me.
24 mins
agree  Michele Fauble: 'outdated' or 'antiquated'
30 mins
agree  Francisco Pavez (X): outdated
1 hr
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
longstanding


Explanation:
unmodern is a word which can be made up..English has so many millions of adjectives though..it really doesn't exist as standard English

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Note added at 27 mins (2005-07-13 20:15:22 GMT)
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OR

rundown.......a rundown state...que no marcha bien

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Note added at 28 mins (2005-07-13 20:15:36 GMT)
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Final: rundown

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Note added at 29 mins (2005-07-13 20:16:51 GMT)
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a rundown, inexpensive and inefficient state....:)

Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 112

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michele Fauble: A longstanding state may not be rundown, and a rundown state may not be longstanding. //Seriously, 'rundown' may be a good option. There are so many possibilities here. BTW English is my native language.
1 hr
  -> I changed my answer, ma chère..rundown is really good if you ask me..But it's hard for non-natives to recognize stylistic niceties..I know you do..this is not criticism..it's a fact. Happens to me in French the same way
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