ezelden

English translation: from time immemorial

16:02 Oct 19, 2008
Turkish to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Music / folk song
Turkish term or phrase: ezelden
Hi,

It's in this song:

BENI CANIMDAN AYIRDI
Söz ve Beste : Muzaffer Ilkar

Beni canimdan ayirdi gönlümü yikti temelden
Seni sevmek de suçmus ki bilmedim yandim ezelden
Seni bana beni sana kavustursun Yarab tez elden
Seni sevmek de suçmus ki bilmedim yandim ezelden

Many thanks

Simon
SeiTT
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:56
English translation:from time immemorial
Explanation:
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Note added at 22 mins (2008-10-19 16:25:09 GMT)
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This is a common exaggerated/overtoned usage in Turkish literature and folklore intended to emphasize that the pain of love makes the lover feel as if such pain had been with him/her for a very very long time even if it is not the reality.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-10-19 20:13:51 GMT)
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There is a similar usage in the Turkish National Anthem (poem version):

Ben ezelden beridir hür yaşadım hür yaşarım
(I have been free since the beginning and forever shall be so)

A Turk may know for how long his nation has been free/independent de facto; however, the poet chooses to reinforce it by using "ezelden beri" because he wants to emphasize the fact that the Turkish nation may not be enslaved under any circumstances (at no time) whatsoever.

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Cagdas Karatas
Türkiye
Local time: 23:56
Grading comment
many thanks, perfect example too!
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Summary of answers provided
5time immemorial
Selcuk Akyuz
5from time immemorial
Cagdas Karatas
4remote since ages
gulakbelen (X)
3I am in gried from the time I fell in love with you
Nuri Razi


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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
ezel
time immemorial


Explanation:
ezel: time immemorial
Here read "ezelden" as "ezel+den (beri)"

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Note added at 20 mins (2008-10-19 16:23:00 GMT)
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I didn't know that loving you was a sin, and (feel) burning in the hellfire from the time immemorial.

Selcuk Akyuz
Türkiye
Local time: 23:56
Native speaker of: Turkish
Notes to answerer
Asker: many thanks, but I don't quite see how that fits the context - the singer hasn't felt grieved (yanmak) from time immemorial as this has only happened with the heartbreak of her sad love affair - up till then she may well have been happy, unless I misunderstand, of course.

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
from time immemorial


Explanation:
...

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Note added at 22 mins (2008-10-19 16:25:09 GMT)
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This is a common exaggerated/overtoned usage in Turkish literature and folklore intended to emphasize that the pain of love makes the lover feel as if such pain had been with him/her for a very very long time even if it is not the reality.

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 4 hrs (2008-10-19 20:13:51 GMT)
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There is a similar usage in the Turkish National Anthem (poem version):

Ben ezelden beridir hür yaşadım hür yaşarım
(I have been free since the beginning and forever shall be so)

A Turk may know for how long his nation has been free/independent de facto; however, the poet chooses to reinforce it by using "ezelden beri" because he wants to emphasize the fact that the Turkish nation may not be enslaved under any circumstances (at no time) whatsoever.



Cagdas Karatas
Türkiye
Local time: 23:56
Native speaker of: Turkish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
many thanks, perfect example too!
Notes to answerer
Asker: many thanks, but I don't quite see how that fits the context - the singer hasn't felt grieved (yanmak) from time immemorial as this has only happened with the heartbreak of her sad love affair - up till then she may well have been happy, unless I misunderstand, of course.

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15 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
remote since ages


Explanation:
I hope this one helps...

gulakbelen (X)
Türkiye
Local time: 23:56
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
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22 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
I am in gried from the time I fell in love with you


Explanation:
Loving you is guilt, maybe I fell in grief since I'd fell in love with you,

I hope this one suits for time immemorial :)

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Note added at 22 hrs (2008-10-20 14:05:00 GMT)
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pardon cevaptaki gried grief olacak.

Nuri Razi
Türkiye
Local time: 23:56
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
PRO pts in category: 8
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