katten på råttan, råttan på repet...

English translation: For want of a nail

14:15 Feb 20, 2019
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Swedish term or phrase: katten på råttan, råttan på repet...
This about describing a chain reaction - "...samma katten-på-råttan-kedjereaktion som visualiserats..." and it refers to the old Swedish story about the kid who didn't want to go to school. This story is so familiar to most Swedes that they instantly know what "katten på råttan" refers to. So, my question is whether there is a similar idiom in English that may be used for conveying the same meaning.

If you're unfamiliar with this story, I found this version online:

Det var en gång en pojke som var förfärligt lat. Han ville inte gå till skolan. Då gick mamman till riset och sa:
– Ris, slå pojken för pojken vill inte gå till skolan.
– Nej, sa riset.
Då gick mamman till elden och sa:
– Eld, bränn riset för riset vill inte slå pojken och pojken vill inte gå till skolan.
– Nej, sa elden.
Då gick mamman till vattnet och sa:
– Vatten, släck elden för elden vill inte bränna riset och riset vill inte slå pojken och pojken vill inte gå till skolan.
– Nej, sa vattnet.
Då gick mamman till oxen och sa:
– Oxe, drick upp vattnet, för vattnet vill inte släcka elden……….(o.s.v)
– Nej, sa oxen.
Då gick mamman till repet coh sa:
– Rep, häng oxen för oxen vill inte dricka…..(o.s.v.)
– Nej, sa repet.
Då gick mamman till råttan och sa:
– Råtta, gnag av repet för repet vill inte hänga……(o.s.v.)
– Nej, sa råttan
Då gick mamman till katten och sa:
– Katt, ta råttan för råttan vill inte gnaga….(o.s.v.)
– Nej, sa katten.
– Men om du får lite grädde då?
– Mja, då kan jag väl göra det.

Och katten på råttan, och råttan på repet, och repet på oxen, och oxen på vattnet, och vattnet på elden, och elden på riset, och riset på pojken och pojken gick till skolan.
ehnsio
Sweden
Local time: 11:37
English translation:For want of a nail
Explanation:
Well-known English proverb, exists in several variants, one of which is attributed to Benjamin Frankling:

For Want of a Nail
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
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The Old Woman and the Crooked Sixpence
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For want of a nail


Explanation:
Well-known English proverb, exists in several variants, one of which is attributed to Benjamin Frankling:

For Want of a Nail
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

Anders Ericsson
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Reference: The Old Woman and the Crooked Sixpence

Reference information:
Also known as The Old Woman and Her Pig

I think this is the closest story in English. There is no idiom as such, but you could say something along the lines of ... like the chain reaction/domino effect in the story/tale of ...

Another option could be I Know an Old Woman Who Swallowed a Fly, but that one doesn't have the same satisfactory happy conclusion. I suppose it depends on your precise context.

The Old Woman and Her Pig
~ England ~
An old woman was sweeping her house, and she found a little crooked sixpence. "What," said she, "shall I do with this little sixpence? I will go to market, and buy a little pig." So she bought a little pig; but as she was coming home, she came to a stile, and the piggy would not go over the stile.

She went a little further, and she met a dog. So she said to him, "Dog! dog! bite pig; piggy won't go over the stile; and I shan't get home till midnight." But the dog wouldn't. She went a little further, and she met a stick. So she said, "Stick! stick! beat dog; dog won't bite pig; piggy won't get over the stile; and I shan't get home till midnight." But the stick wouldn't.

She went a little further, and she met a fire. So she said, "Fire! fire! burn stick; stick won't beat dog; dog won't bite pig; pig won't get over the stile; and I shan't get home till midnight." But the fire wouldn't.

She went a little further, and she met some water. So she said, "Water! water! quench fire; fire won't burn stick; stick won't beat dog; dog won't bite pig; pig won't get over the stile; and I shan't get home till midnight." But the water wouldn't.

She went a little further, and she met an ox. So she said, "Ox! ox! drink water; water won't quench fire; fire won't burn stick; stick won't beat dog; dog won't bite pig; pig won't get over the stile; and I shan't get home till midnight." But the ox wouldn't.

She went a little further, and she met a butcher. So she said, "Butcher! butcher! kill ox; ox won't drink water; water won't quench fire; fire won't burn stick; stick won't beat dog; dog won't bite pig; pig won't get over the stile; and I shan't get home till midnight." But the butcher wouldn't.

She went a little further, and she met a rope. So she said, "Rope! rope! hang butcher; butcher won't kill ox; ox won't drink water; water won't quench fire; fire won't burn stick; stick won't beat dog; dog won't bite pig; pig won't get over the stile; and I shan't get home till midnight." But the rope wouldn't.

She went a little further, and she met a rat. So she said, "Rat! rat! gnaw rope; rope won't hang butcher; butcher won't kill ox; ox won't drink water; water won't quench fire; fire won't burn stick; stick won't beat dog; dog won't bite pig; pig won't get over the stile; and I shan't get home till midnight." But the rat wouldn't.

She went a little further, and she met a cat. So she said, "Cat! Cat! kill rat; rat won't gnaw rope; rope won't hang butcher; butcher won't kill ox; ox won't drink water; water won't quench fire; fire won't burn stick; stick won't beat dog; dog won't bite pig; pig won't get over the stile; and I shan't get home till midnight." But the cat said to her, "if you will go to yonder cow, and fetch me a saucer of milk, I will kill the rat." So away went the old woman to the cow.

But the cow said to her, "If you will go to yonder haystack: and fetch me a handful of hay, I'll give you the milk." So away went the old woman to the hay-stack; and she brought the hay to the cow.

As soon as the cow had eaten the hay, she gave the old woman the milk; and away she went with it in a saucer to the cat.

As soon as the cat had lapped up the milk, the cat began to kill the rat; the rat began to gnaw the rope; the rope began to hang the butcher; the butcher began to kill the ox; the ox began to drink the water; the water began to quench the fire; the fire began to burn the stick; the stick began to beat the dog; the dog began to bite the pig; the little pig squealed and jumped over the stile; and so the old woman got home before midnight.
http://www.stavacademy.co.uk/mimir/oldwomanpig.htm

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
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