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da tu palabra y ròmpete

Italian translation: Di' la tua parola e infrangi te stesso

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Spanish term or phrase: da tu palabra y ròmpete Italian translation: Di' la tua parola e infrangi te stesso Entered by: Federica Della Casa Marchi

16:09 Mar 21, 2016

Spanish to Italian translations [PRO] Art/Literary - Idioms / Maxims / Sayings / vecchio adagio
Spanish term or phrase: da tu palabra y ròmpete Rieccomi! Mi ritrovo con questa espressione che non riesco a decifrare. l'autore (cileno, tanto per cambiare) sta raccontando il proprio percorso politico-ideologico verso un nuovo sistema, ed a un certo punto dice: El viejo refràn "da tu palabra y ròmpete" calò en nuestro sistema de valores. Ho provato a cercare su Google, senza però ottenere risultati degni di nota...a parte vari siti sulle imprecazioni e parolacce in spagnolo :-O Eppure, se è un modo di dire, doveva pur spuntare qualcosa... Qualche idea? Grazie	Giuseppina Vecchia KudoZ activity Questions: 37 (2 open) (1 without valid answers) (5 closed without grading) Answers: 498 Italy Local time: 20:05
Di' la tua parola e infrangi te stesso Explanation: potrebbe essere il passo di Nietzsche da Così parlò Zarathustra "Di tu palabra y rómpete" - "di' la tua parola e infrangi te stesso" ?	Selected response from: Federica Della Casa Marchi Italy Local time: 20:05
Grading comment Grazie anche a Barbara per il link che conferma la cosa. Rimane la curiosità di sapere perché usano "da" anziché "di". 4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

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3 +1	Di' la tua parola e infrangi te stesso	Federica Della Casa Marchi

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DA TU PALABRA Y RÓMPETE	Barbara Turitto

Discussion entries: 2

Giuseppina Vecchia Italy ASKER difficile decidere... 08:40 Mar 31, 2016  Scusate la mia lunga assenza, eccomi qua di nuovo. Dunque, sembrerebbe in effetti la frase di Nietzsche, se non fosse per la differenza tra i verbi, dar/decir. Mi chiedo se sia una parafrasi voluta o un errore originale di Silo che poi si è "tramandato" tra i suoi seguaci.Proverò a sentire l'editore. Giuseppina Vecchia Italy ASKER di/da 16:17 Mar 21, 2016  ...a meno che non si riferisca alla frase di Nietsche? Ma in quel caso doveva essere DI tu palabra, no? Automatic update in 00:

  

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Di' la tua parola e infrangi te stesso Explanation: potrebbe essere il passo di Nietzsche da Così parlò Zarathustra "Di tu palabra y rómpete" - "di' la tua parola e infrangi te stesso" ?	Federica Della Casa Marchi Italy Local time: 20:05 Works in field Native speaker of: Italian PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment Grazie anche a Barbara per il link che conferma la cosa. Rimane la curiosità di sapere perché usano "da" anziché "di".
Notes to answerer Asker: Infatti, mi era venuto il dubbio dopo aver postato la domanda. grazie
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Reference: DA TU PALABRA Y RÓMPETE Reference information: Ciao Giuseppina, Ho trovato questo riferimento che potrebbe esserti di aiuto. Buon lavoro! -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2 giorni18 ore (2016-03-24 10:42:39 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Esatto! Come conferma la nota 1 nel documento. Sarà quindi opportuno tenere presente le (molteplici) traduzioni già pubblicate. Un saluto e buon proseguimento!     Reference: http://www.parclabelleidee.fr/docs/productions/palabrayrompe...	Barbara Turitto Italy Native speaker of: Italian
Note to reference poster Asker: Grazie, interessante questo link, tanto più che, per l'appunto, il mio testo si riferisce proprio alla stessa corrente filosofica! Questo sembra confermare che la frase in questione è quella di Nietsche e non un "proverbio" come il mio autore sembra pensare.
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