programas "rosa"

14:01 Dec 8, 2010 

A good run, and I learned a lot from it too!

13:56 Dec 8, 2010 

Thanks very much for the useful feedback, Lesley.

13:43 Dec 8, 2010 

1) “Magazine” sería una especie de talk show (un programa de entrevistas, tertulias y algún reportaje sobre temas de actualidad).
2) “Informativos” indicaría programas de noticias (“news program” creo que sería una traducción adecuada)
3) Efectivamente, “programas rosa” se refiere a programas de cotilleos sobre personajes famosos, “celebrity gossip show” sería una buena traducción.

00:34 Nov 30, 2010 

with Oliver's answer: you have made an incorrect assumption. I never indicated the purpose or target population for the survey. It's actually not a "market research" survey but a survey connected with research into what television programming people with low IQs choose to watch. So this answer could be entirely appropriate. But meanwhile, I have written to request information from the author of the paper as to what is meant by both "magazines" and "programas rosa'"... thank you.

19:48 Nov 29, 2010 

The "magazine" description was from a Brit expatriate source so it probably won't mean anything to your client. The Spanish don't use the term. Good luck!

19:34 Nov 29, 2010 

ok, well if that's what a "magazine" show is in Spain, then I can't even leave "magazine" as is (in English in the source) -- because THAT would be the "[celebrity] gossip show." In U.S. TV a "magazine show" is a news show like Dateline or 60 Minutes. (I was just researching that.) So maybe, as I was wondering in my original post and as Jenni is suggesting, this IS a type of programming unique to Spain that has no real U.S. TV counterpart -- and needs a footnote in the translation to explain. At this point, I'm going to see if I can get the author's distinction between "magazine" and programas "rosa". Stay tuned.

19:21 Nov 29, 2010 

The description "magazine show" refers to the fact that the same people who are protagonists in these primarily daytime talk shows (all they do is talk and dis their ex-husbands, wivesand parnters before a live audience) also appear in the pages of ¡Hola! and other women's magazines. I think that women's talk shows is a better description. Gays have nothing to do with this category. The number one star of these shows in Spain is Belen Esteban, whose claim to fame is being the former wife of a famous bullfighter See http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belén_Esteban. The "celebrities" that appear in these programs are tacky:men who have basically been gigolos all their lives, women who have beenthe wives of bullfighters, etc. Spanish TV doesn't have the budget for big-time celebrities so it has created their own. When people describe them as "de farandula" it means that they are shallow people who spend most of their time in restaurants and nightclubs. The big question is why the Spanish public eats this up, but these shows are very popular.

19:07 Nov 29, 2010 

(that's also mentioned in the wordreference thread). At this point, I'd like to just sort out whether this is definitely a juicy celebrity gossip type of show or just a "talk show"... does "rosa" clearly imply gossip, those of you who are in Spain? I'm inclined to just say "talk show" and leave it at that... unless that's what "magazines" means? (another category on the survey that's given in English). All the other categories are obvious, but these two... thanks.

18:59 Nov 29, 2010 

Isn't "rosa" connected to "la prensa rosa", i.e. the tabloid press?

18:44 Nov 29, 2010 

In the U.K we have notions like the "pink pound", i.e, the gay economy, could lead on from that, or maybe from the concept of "the pink press"?

18:42 Nov 29, 2010 

Maybe it's to do with gay men,many of whom lap up women's T.V. fodder because they identify more with the feminine and most of their best friends are women?

18:31 Nov 29, 2010 

"magazines" (in English!) is a separate category in the survey, so programas "rosa" has to be something distinct from that.

18:27 Nov 29, 2010 

posted below... in there, it gives "programa de farándula." I thought farándula just means "show business." DRAE gives: "(despect. Arg., Cuba, El Salv., Ur. y Ven.) Mundillo de la vida nocturna formado por figuras de los negocios, el deporte, la política y el espectáculo." I can see the "rosa" referring to an orientation to women, as Jenni suggests. (Oprah??) Maybe just "talk show"? (a kind of generic way of referring to the format and content?). Very common expression here in U.S.