voz afín

English translation: word with similar related forms in

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Spanish term or phrase:voz afín
English translation:word with similar related forms in
Entered by: SeiTT

05:35 Mar 2, 2020
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Social Sciences - Linguistics / Etymology
Spanish term or phrase: voz afín
Hi
Ref. https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carajo#Etimología
Carajo es voz afín en todas las lenguas románicas hispánicas, por lo que el filólogo y romanista Joan Coromines le supone un origen prerromano, proponiendo en el Diccionario crítico etimológico castellano e hispánico (Coromines y Pascual, 1983) la raíz celta cario para el término.
If voz afín means something like ‘cognate word’, why not “Carajo tiene voz afín…” rather than “Carajo es voz afín…”?
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Simon
SeiTT
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:09
word with similar related forms in
Explanation:
"Voz" can mean 'word'. See Real Academic dictionary, meaning #5.

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https://dle.rae.es/voz?m=form
voz
Del lat. vox, vocis.
1. f. Sonido producido por la vibración de las cuerdas vocales.
2. f. Calidad, timbre o intensidad de la voz.
3. f. Sonido que forman algunas cosas inanimadas, heridas del viento o hiriendo en él.
4. f. Grito, voz esforzada y levantada. U. m. en pl.
5. f. Palabra o vocablo.

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Example of 'similar related form' in the same type of context:

Iranian borrowings in Qur'ānic (and pre-Islamic ... - HAL-SHShalshs.archives-ouvertes.fr › halshs-01445860 › document
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by J Cheung - ‎2016 - ‎Cited by 2 - ‎Related articles
Jan 25, 2017 - **similar related form** kanna 'to hide' (kann 'sheltered place, refuge; nest; house'). - rizq 'bounty, provision'. The term rizq is very frequent in the ...


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Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 07:09
Grading comment
Many thanks, most useful, good point about the Iranian borrowings in the Qur'ān
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4 +4word with similar related forms in
Muriel Vasconcellos
4 +3a cognate
Martin Cosgrove (X)


  

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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
word with similar related forms in


Explanation:
"Voz" can mean 'word'. See Real Academic dictionary, meaning #5.

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Note added at 35 mins (2020-03-02 06:10:38 GMT)
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https://dle.rae.es/voz?m=form
voz
Del lat. vox, vocis.
1. f. Sonido producido por la vibración de las cuerdas vocales.
2. f. Calidad, timbre o intensidad de la voz.
3. f. Sonido que forman algunas cosas inanimadas, heridas del viento o hiriendo en él.
4. f. Grito, voz esforzada y levantada. U. m. en pl.
5. f. Palabra o vocablo.

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Note added at 40 mins (2020-03-02 06:15:58 GMT)
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Example of 'similar related form' in the same type of context:

Iranian borrowings in Qur'ānic (and pre-Islamic ... - HAL-SHShalshs.archives-ouvertes.fr › halshs-01445860 › document
PDF
by J Cheung - ‎2016 - ‎Cited by 2 - ‎Related articles
Jan 25, 2017 - **similar related form** kanna 'to hide' (kann 'sheltered place, refuge; nest; house'). - rizq 'bounty, provision'. The term rizq is very frequent in the ...




Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 07:09
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 120
Grading comment
Many thanks, most useful, good point about the Iranian borrowings in the Qur'ān

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
25 mins
  -> Thank you, Phil!

agree  Jane Martin
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Jane!

agree  Emiliano Pantoja
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Emiliano!

agree  neilmac
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Neil!

agree  Kristen F.: Yes. "Word" is the best option here.
7 hrs
  -> Thank you, Kristen!

disagree  Martin Cosgrove (X): Seems like quite a clunky translation
11 hrs
  -> It's the term used in linguistics, which is my specialty.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
a cognate


Explanation:
if you look on linguee, afín is one of the suggestions for 'cognate'. As a languages teacher in the UK, we teach students about cognates a lot, so the word is known.

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Carajo is a cognate within/amongst all romance languages...


    Reference: http://https://www.linguee.com/english-spanish/translation/c...
Martin Cosgrove (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 14:09
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Vittorio Ferretti
28 mins

neutral  Muriel Vasconcellos: While you might use 'cognate' in teaching translation, this is a discussion of etymology. Just sayin': I studied etymology as part of my graduate work in linguistics.
31 mins
  -> Yes and cognates are used when referring to the derivation of words: 1. LINGUISTICS (of a word) having the same linguistic derivation as another (e.g. English father, German Vater, Latin pater ).

agree  Michele Fauble
13 hrs

agree  Chema Nieto Castañón: Carajo es voz afín a todos los romances hispánicos... Carajo finds its cognates in all [romances hispánicos]
13 hrs
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