fondo licoroso y balsámico

English translation: spirituous and balsamic note

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Spanish term or phrase:fondo licoroso y balsámico
English translation:spirituous and balsamic note
Entered by: Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales

10:39 Jul 9, 2020
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Food & Drink / Wine
Spanish term or phrase: fondo licoroso y balsámico
Another wine question, please....

"Aromas de maderas nobles, coco, pimienta sobre fondo de frutas negras y maduras y compota. Fondo licoroso y balsámico."

From my research, I've ascertained that "background" and "balsamic" are fine when talking about wines, but would appreciate having those confirmed.

But "liquor-like" or "liqueur-ish" don't seem right. And I'm wondering if it is, in fact, "liquorice" (which we pronounce liquor-ish)...

Any guidance appreciated.

Many thanks
Comunican
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:28
spirituous and balsamic note
Explanation:
I have found a number of references for "spirituous wine". Here are three:

"Spiritous wine is wine rich in alcohol, when drunk generates a sensation of heat in the stomach".
https://books.google.es/books?id=Vy9te0HWTYwC&pg=PA126&lpg=P...

"A dry and spirituous wine" (p. 107) "A dry spirituous wine"
https://books.google.es/books?id=ciQZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA141&lpg=P...

This one refers to "vin spiritueux" https://books.google.es/books?id=5AY2AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA872&lpg=P...
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Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales
Local time: 20:28
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Many thanks Elizabeth and everyone for your help with this tricky one!
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Summary of answers provided
4spirituous and balsamic note
Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales
3A syrupy balsamic base note
ormiston
3 -1spirit/liquor and balsamic note
Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón


Discussion entries: 11





  

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spirit/liquor and balsamic note


Explanation:
https://www.wendyweekendgourmet.com/2014/05/homemade-liqueur...

Juan Arturo Blackmore Zerón
Mexico
Local time: 13:28
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Yvonne Gallagher: nothing to do with spirit or liquor
19 hrs
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1 day 6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
spirituous and balsamic note


Explanation:
I have found a number of references for "spirituous wine". Here are three:

"Spiritous wine is wine rich in alcohol, when drunk generates a sensation of heat in the stomach".
https://books.google.es/books?id=Vy9te0HWTYwC&pg=PA126&lpg=P...

"A dry and spirituous wine" (p. 107) "A dry spirituous wine"
https://books.google.es/books?id=ciQZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA141&lpg=P...

This one refers to "vin spiritueux" https://books.google.es/books?id=5AY2AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA872&lpg=P...

Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales
Local time: 20:28
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16
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Many thanks Elizabeth and everyone for your help with this tricky one!
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A syrupy balsamic base note


Explanation:
On the strength of the helpful debate above, I've researched possible interpretatios via the French adjective. Balsamic is often linked to syrupy and comes up as a possibility for 'liqueureux' too..

"In the old days, it was a balsamic medicine – used to soothe the throat – and so it is very ... fulsome flavour than wine vinegars, but they are not as sweet and syrupy as balsamic.
Imagehttps://www.simplyrecipes.com › a_...

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More references, not necessarily negative
C'est pourquoi par exemple les vins liquoreux ont une intensité aromatique secondaire plus importante.
This is why, for example, syrupy wines have a higher secondary aromatic intensity.

Cambridge university dictionary describes it primarily as sweet, then with a thick texture

ormiston
Local time: 20:28
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Native speaker of: English
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Yvonne Gallagher: doesn't sound like very appetising WINE at all
23 hrs
  -> Neither does the Spanish!

neutral  philgoddard: Your own reference shows that "syrupy" is not an attractive characteristic.
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