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socio comercial

English translation: Business partner

15:28 May 9, 2020
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / Compliance, Code of Conduct
Spanish term or phrase: socio comercial
I'm translating a training document related to a company's code of conduct and they use the term "socio comercial" throughout, but I'm struggling to come up with an appropriate translation for it. Here are some examples:

"[El código de Conducta] promueve una conducta ética y responsable y subraya nuestras responsabilidades como socio comercial, como miembro de la sociedad y en el lugar de trabajo."

"En el caso de regalos, únicamente podrás aceptar regalos por un importe económico de hasta 50€ por año y socio comercial."

"Cuando un regalo supere los 50€ o existan dudas acerca de su valor, el regalo deberá ser devuelto al socio comercial."

I initially thought it was referring to a company, but then it stated that only one gift of €50 can be accepted per "socio comercial", which seemed a bit limiting for an entire company. Is it just a catch-all term that could refer to just any business person, executive or even company? Or can it only refer to a person?

Thanks in advance.
Mark Harris
France
Local time: 03:59
English translation:Business partner
Explanation:
Es lo único que se me ocurre porque luego habla de regalos a otras empresas y demás.
Selected response from:

Gareth Rhys-Jones López
Spain
Local time: 03:59
Grading comment
Perfect, thanks!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +11Business partner
Gareth Rhys-Jones López
5 +1commercial partner
Mariela Rollinson
4 +2trading partner
Rebecca Jowers
3 +1business associate
Adrian MM.
4business client
patinba
Summary of reference entries provided
Partners
neilmac

Discussion entries: 1





  

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +11
Business partner


Explanation:
Es lo único que se me ocurre porque luego habla de regalos a otras empresas y demás.

Gareth Rhys-Jones López
Spain
Local time: 03:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Perfect, thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Barbara Cochran, MFA
1 min
agree  Robert Carter: Yes, loosely, as in suppliers, customers, etc., rather than formal partnerships.
8 mins
agree  Eileen Brophy
10 mins
agree  Katarina Peters
11 mins
agree  Paulina Sobelman
28 mins
agree  Michael Grabczan-Grabowski
1 hr
agree  Sonia García
1 hr
agree  David Hollywood
1 hr
agree  Nelly Alejandra Alister
6 hrs
agree  neilmac: Reminds me of a TEFL book I used when teaching (Lower Intermediate Business English Course)
16 hrs
agree  AllegroTrans
1 day 5 hrs
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
commercial partner


Explanation:
it refers to an associate, member or owner of the company.

Mariela Rollinson
Argentina
Local time: 22:59
Native speaker of: Spanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marouchka Heijnen
4 mins
neutral  neilmac:
1 day 15 hrs
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
trading partner


Explanation:
(another option)

Rebecca Jowers
Spain
Local time: 03:59
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 306

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Robert Carter: Hi Rebecca. Isn't trading partners a macroeconomic term, i.e., it usually refer to regions and countries?//On reflection, I think you're right, it's broader than that. ¡Saludos!
3 mins
  -> I's never thought of the term as being limited exclusively to regions or countries, although you would certainly find it in a glossary of macroeconomic terms.
agree  neilmac: I sometimes use this as wel...
16 hrs
  -> Thank, neilmac
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
business associate


Explanation:
a standard UK Revenue term and, at times, criminal law concept cf. a 'business confederate' in US-Am. crime. 'X acting with confederates'.....

Example sentence(s):
  • Linguee: This continuity benefits not only Krones, but all its business associates as well. krones.cn No sólo Krones sino todos sus socios comerciales se benefician de esta continuidad. krones.cn

    Reference: http://www.linguee.es/ingles-espanol/traduccion/business+ass...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  patinba: I think you are missing the point. The context is about bribes from companies you do business with, not about bribing your own associates or partners.
10 mins
  -> You may have been out of the UK for too long. Its meaning does extend to any kind of business *contact*: https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/business-associate
agree  AllegroTrans: Yes, this also works
22 hrs
  -> Thanks- Wringfooted again, I never expected anyone to narrow the meaning to a partner in business-
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
business client


Explanation:
If I do business with someone, they are not my partner, they are my client or customer. My business partner is someone I join with to go into business. Mr Marks and Mr Spencer were business partners.

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Note added at 19 hrs (2020-05-10 11:26:20 GMT)
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SEC Rules in the context of gifts refer to "Clients" "vendors" and "persons that do business with the firm" The use of "business partner" being proposed lacks the necessary clarity.

Gifts, Entertainment and Contributions - SEC.gov www.sec.gov › Archives › edgar › data


patinba
Argentina
Local time: 22:59
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 648

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: No, it could also be a supplier.
38 mins
  -> So as a translation supplier, is the person you provide them to a business partner?
neutral  Robert Carter: I think I had the same reservations as you, but the meaning seems to have broadened http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/business-partne...
2 hrs
  -> Your definition refers to an "exclusive" relationship between two companies, rather limiting the use.
neutral  neilmac: Nowadays it's widely used in the sense of anyone you do business with...
14 hrs
neutral  AllegroTrans: This is too narrow
1 day 3 hrs
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Reference comments


17 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Partners

Reference information:
As I noted in the discussion, nowadays "partners" is widely used, especially in online/EDI/e-commerce, to describe suppliers, customers, and basically anyone you do business with. The link below shows how "partner address book"contains a list of business contacts described as "partners", with instructions on how to add or remove partners from the list.
And the IBM link shows that they use the synonym "trading partner"…

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Note added at 20 hrs (2020-05-10 11:56:08 GMT)
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When translating from Spanish in EDI and similar contexts, "interlocutor" translates as "partner", like here:

- El acuerdo entre interlocutores EDI -> The agreement between EDI partners -

http://www.odoo-ondemand.es/en_US/blog/technology-and-busine...

https://www.linguee.com/spanish-english/translation/acuerdo ...


    https://pomoc.halcom.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/EN-Address-book-20.0.0.0X.pdf
    https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSVSD8_9.0.0/com.ibm.websphere.dtx.packcomtut.doc/tasks/t_pack_comtut_Task_Define_a_new_external
neilmac
Spain
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 564

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  AllegroTrans: yep, and other words such as contacts & associates and even buddies spring to mind
1 day 4 hrs
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