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civilizacijski

English translation: civilization-affirming, culture-affirming, civilization-building, edifying, ennobling, positive

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Serbian term or phrase:civilizacijski
English translation:civilization-affirming, culture-affirming, civilization-building, edifying, ennobling, positive
Entered by: Miomira Brankovic

12:34 Aug 18, 2006
Serbian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
Serbian term or phrase: civilizacijski
Ovo je izraz koji bih ja okarakterisala kao pomodnu poštapalicu i za koji još nisam našla adekvatno rešenje u engleskom, a javlja mi se relativno često u tekstovima koje prevodim. Svaki moj pokušaj da od autora tekstova dobijem definiciju izraza rezultirao je samo nemuštim i nedovoljno preciznim objašnjenjima - kao da ga svi koriste ne razmišljajući šta zapravo hoće da kažu. Konkretni primeri iz teksta koji upravo prevodim:
Socijalni dijalog je civilzacijska tekovina savremenog doba.
Nesporni civilizacijski smisao i snaga socijalnog dijaloga ogleda se i u njegovim principima.
Pošto nisam našla nijedno pominjanje ovog izraza ni na jednom mestu u ProZ-u na sledećim jezicima: srpski, srpsko-hrvatski, hrvatski, bosanski, slovenački, bila bih zahvalna kolegama za sugestije i konstruktivne ideje.
Miomira Brankovic
Serbia
Local time: 10:29
civilization-affirming, culture-affirming, civilization-building, edifying, ennobling, positive
Explanation:
"Svaki moj pokušaj da od autora tekstova dobijem definiciju izraza rezultirao je samo nemuštim i nedovoljno preciznim objašnjenjima - kao da ga svi koriste ne razmišljajući šta zapravo hoće da kažu."

Koleginice, gde ce vam dusa! Neko bi mogao pomisliti da imamo posla sa mlatiocima prazne slame i presipaocima supljeg u prazno. A mozda je engleski suvise siromasan da bi izrazio svu pregnantnost misli tih intelektualnih gromada?

Sve zavisi od konteksta i ugla gledanja. Evo mojih predloga:

Socijalni dijalog je civilizacijska tekovina savremenog doba:

Social dialogue is a civilization-affirming/promoting/building (culture-enhancing) product of the modern age.

Ili mozda samo: Social dialogue is a hallmark of modern civilization (pod pretpostavkom da su civilizacija i savremeno doba jedno te isto).

Nesporni civilizacijski smisao i snaga socijalnog dijaloga ogleda se i u njegovim principima:

The indisputable civilizing/edifying/ennobling (civilization-affirming) purport/significance/import and force/impact of social dialogue is also reflected in its principles. (sta god da to znaci).

Hope this helps.



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Pavle Perencevic
Canada
Local time: 01:29
Grading comment
Kao i mnogo puta ranije, dali ste vrlo originalne predloge, sa dovoljno raznovrsnosti, koji mogu da pokriju skoro sve kontekste u kojima se ovaj pridev javlja. To je bilo upravo ono što mi je nedostajalo. Veliko hvala.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2civilizing ili cultured ili civilized
Margarita Ioannidou
5 +1civilizationаl
Bogdan Petrovic
4civilization-affirming, culture-affirming, civilization-building, edifying, ennobling, positive
Pavle Perencevic
4civilized, or of civilization
KRAT (X)


  

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45 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
civilizing ili cultured ili civilized


Explanation:
To su samo predlozi iako sam diplomirala na filozofskom fakultetu u Beogradu (odeljenje arheologije). Zavisi od teksta
Nadam se da sam doprinela necemu.
Pozdrav
Margarita

Margarita Ioannidou
Greece
Local time: 11:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GreekGreek, Native in SerbianSerbian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  V&M Stanković: Oxford Dictionary: civilize (BrE also civilise) - to educate and improve a person or a society; to make sb's behaviour or manners better:The girls in a class tend to have a civilizing influence on the boys.
46 mins
agree  Sladjana Spaic: U datom kontekstu je CIVILIZING ispravan izraz
3 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
civilizationаl


Explanation:
civilizational аchievement; civilizational meaning; civilizational identity, etc.

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-08-18 14:13:46 GMT)
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ili pak (za dostignuce):

Morocco, Tunisia Call for Reviving Maghreban Union

Morocco and Tunisia have called for reviving the Arab Maghreb Union (UMA) that they described as "an irreversible strategic option, a historic gain and a civilizational achievement".



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Note added at 1 hr (2006-08-18 14:14:41 GMT)
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link za to je http://www.mincom.gov.ma/news/2000/2205to2705/pol/pol.htm

Example sentence(s):
  • What is historically unique about the West is not its immaculate conception, therefore, but rather that (b)it found within itself the moral resources to call a halt to these barbaric practices and to pronounce them wrong.
  • For, as Voegelin writes: "History is constituted in the continuity of generations and civilizational meaning" (p.6). In the third poem, The Dry Salvages, the scene shifts to America. This is not just an emigration from place to place. It also evokes the d

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    For, as Voegelin writes: "History is constituted in the continuity of generations and civilizational meaning" (p.6). In the third poem, The
Bogdan Petrovic
Serbia
Local time: 10:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Serbian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marina Jovanovic
23 hrs
  -> hvala!
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
civilization-affirming, culture-affirming, civilization-building, edifying, ennobling, positive


Explanation:
"Svaki moj pokušaj da od autora tekstova dobijem definiciju izraza rezultirao je samo nemuštim i nedovoljno preciznim objašnjenjima - kao da ga svi koriste ne razmišljajući šta zapravo hoće da kažu."

Koleginice, gde ce vam dusa! Neko bi mogao pomisliti da imamo posla sa mlatiocima prazne slame i presipaocima supljeg u prazno. A mozda je engleski suvise siromasan da bi izrazio svu pregnantnost misli tih intelektualnih gromada?

Sve zavisi od konteksta i ugla gledanja. Evo mojih predloga:

Socijalni dijalog je civilizacijska tekovina savremenog doba:

Social dialogue is a civilization-affirming/promoting/building (culture-enhancing) product of the modern age.

Ili mozda samo: Social dialogue is a hallmark of modern civilization (pod pretpostavkom da su civilizacija i savremeno doba jedno te isto).

Nesporni civilizacijski smisao i snaga socijalnog dijaloga ogleda se i u njegovim principima:

The indisputable civilizing/edifying/ennobling (civilization-affirming) purport/significance/import and force/impact of social dialogue is also reflected in its principles. (sta god da to znaci).

Hope this helps.





Pavle Perencevic
Canada
Local time: 01:29
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Kao i mnogo puta ranije, dali ste vrlo originalne predloge, sa dovoljno raznovrsnosti, koji mogu da pokriju skoro sve kontekste u kojima se ovaj pridev javlja. To je bilo upravo ono što mi je nedostajalo. Veliko hvala.
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1150 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
civilized, or of civilization


Explanation:
Civilnje=civilization (or culture=culturija)

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Local time: 11:29
Native speaker of: Creek
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