подбивка холста

English translation: lining of canvas

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Russian term or phrase:	подбивка холста
English translation:	lining of canvas
Entered by:	Igor Popov

11:17 May 7, 2019

Russian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / painting

Russian term or phrase: подбивка холста

Please, what the English for "подбивка холста".

Context in Russian:
Состояние краски было стабильным, подбивка не являла следов порчи, а подрамник исправно выполнял свои механические функции, в виду чего было решено не трогать эти части картины. (перевод с итальянского — не мой)

The same context in Italian:
Lo stato di conservazione del colore era stabile, la foderatura non presentava nessun deterioramento ed il telaio svolgeva le sue corrette funzioni meccaniche, di conseguenza si è ritenuto opportuno non intervenire in questa parte del supporto.

Igor Popov KudoZ activity Questions: 94 (4 open) (5 without valid answers) (16 closed without grading) Answers: 155 Russian Federation
Local time: 10:36

lining of canvas

Explanation:
The verbum ‘line’, meaning ‘to cover inner side of…’, goes back to the late 14th Century. It is derived from lin (linen cloth), because linen was frequently used as a second layer of material at the inner side of garment in the Middle Ages [16].
The word lining can be compared to the Spanish ‘forración’ and the Italian ‘foderatura’. These words mean lining (of paintings) and can also be
translated as ‘to cover the inside of a garment’.

https://adk.elsevierpure.com/files/59411477/Lining_Relining_...

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Да, итальянский очень помог, спасибо, подбивку я даже искать не стал. :) Рад был помочь.

Selected response from:

rns

Grading comment

Спасибо большое
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

3 +3

lining of canvas

rns

canvas stretching

Vadim Bogdanov

5 -1

tapping (the keys, wedges) into place (with a hammer) / attaching (inserting) the keys

Turdimurod Rakhmanov

Discussion entries: 3

Igor Popov

Russian Federation

ASKER

Коллеги, спасибо вам большое за живое участие

21:58 May 7, 2019

И еще немного контекста в пользу слова "foderatura" из того же текста (русский перевод пришлось в данном случае проигнорировать):

L’operazione di pulitura e la conseguente rimozione delle ridipinture hanno messo in evidenza cinque tipi di stucco di colorazione diversa. L’asportazione meccanica di questi ha portato alla luce, nel bordo di sinistra, frammenti di un quotidiano in lingua francese, da cui si è potuto leggere chiaramente la parola "supérieur", incollati sulla tela probabilmente nella fase di foderatura, per proteggere i margini dall’eccesso di collante.

Tatiana Pelipeiko

Russian Federation

Смотрим значение итальянского термина:

15:15 May 7, 2019

"Nel restauro dei dipinti su tela, la foderatura o rintelatura è un'operazione che consiste nell’applicazione sul retro dell'originaria tela dipinta, di una nuova tela, che rafforza dal verso il supporto del film pittorico." - речь о реставрации живописи на холсте путем его дублирования и ни о чем ином.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foderatura
Переводчик на русский, похоже, подумал о "подкладке" (в терминологии одежды), да еще и поставил менее употребительное "подбивка" (диалектное или профессионализм?).
Хорошо, что аскер привел оригинал.

The Misha

Lining only makes sense if...

14:55 May 7, 2019

... it is clear from the context that is is indeed about a restored painting. There is no such thing as "lining" in the original process. The stretched raw canvas is first covered with multiple layers of traditional or acrylic white primer ("gesso") or rabbit skin glue "size" that protects the organic canvas from rot. So this may well be about the state of this underlying primer level - unless it is not.

Answers

9 mins confidence:

canvas stretching

Explanation:
Регулировка натяжения холста (подбивка клиньями)...

https://www.wikihow.com/Stretch-a-Canvas

Vadim Bogdanov
Russian Federation
Local time: 10:36
Native speaker of:

Russian

Notes to answerer

Asker: Вадим, я тоже сначала думал, что речь идет о подбивке клиньями, но контекст статьи заставил засомневаться, а итальянский вариант еще больше заставил задуматься.

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

tapping (the keys, wedges) into place (with a hammer) / attaching (inserting) the keys

Explanation:
Adjustment of the tension of the canvas by tapping (the keys, wedges) into place (with a hammer) / attaching (inserting) the keys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvC_tHXiPss

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https://www.fluidartprojects.com/how-to-prepare-canvas-for-a...

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tapping the canvas keys and wedging them into place

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Оказывается контекст другой, не подбивка клиньями

Turdimurod Rakhmanov
Kyrgyzstan
Local time: 13:36
Native speaker of:

Uzbek,

Kirghiz
PRO pts in category: 8

9 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

lining of canvas

rns
Native speaker of:

Russian
PRO pts in category: 30

Grading comment

Спасибо большое

Notes to answerer

Asker: Я поэтому и привел итальянский вариант, поскольку подозревал, что перевод на русский неудачный

Asker: Спасибо большое за ссылку, она все ставит на свои места

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