восходящих к незабвенному Л. Г. Моргану в изложении Ф. Энгельса

English translation: dating back to F. Engels' summary of the unforgettable works by L.G. Morgan

19:05 Jan 7, 2007
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Science - Archaeology / Palaeolithic cultures
Russian term or phrase: восходящих к незабвенному Л. Г. Моргану в изложении Ф. Энгельса
The grammar of this phrase has me foxed, which is kind of embarrassing, but I've spent so long looking at it that I can't see it any more. Does it mean that it dates back to L. G. Morgan's unforgettable summary of F. Engels? It's the dative of Morgan that's throwing me.

Отметим здесь же явно затянувшееся существование так называемой “истории первобытного общества”, которая, вопреки широковещательным декларациям о “синтезе” источников, свелась на практике к дилетантским попыткам этнографов интерпретировать археологические данные в рамках умозрительных схем, восходящих к незабвенному Л. Г. Моргану в изложении Ф. Энгельса.
Alan Campbell
Local time: 14:46
English translation:dating back to F. Engels' summary of the unforgettable works by L.G. Morgan
Explanation:
Almost correct, but in reverse

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Note added at 10 mins (2007-01-07 19:16:44 GMT)
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Literally: dating back to Morgan in Engels' rendition

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Note added at 13 mins (2007-01-07 19:19:11 GMT)
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oops... Engels's :-)
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Anton Konashenok
Czech Republic
Local time: 15:46
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Thank you Anton for uncovering the meaning for me. A simple grammar construction that had me confused. And sorry about making it pro - you're right, it probably ought not to have been, but I'm never quite sure what to do in such cases. I am a pro and didn't get it. Does that mean it's a pro question? Perhaps not. Anyway, thanks.
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Summary of answers provided
5that can be traced back to the unforgettable L.G. Morgan in Engels' exposition
Goldvic
4dating back to F. Engels' summary of the unforgettable works by L.G. Morgan
Anton Konashenok
4dating back to unforgettable L. G. Morgan in Engel's exposition (exposition by Engels)
Zamira B.
4[in terms of methodology originally proposed by venerable L.G. Morgan and interpreted by F. Engels
Alexander Demidov
3which can be traced back to F. Engels's summary of memorable L.G. Morgan's works
Valery Kaminski


  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
dating back to F. Engels' summary of the unforgettable works by L.G. Morgan


Explanation:
Almost correct, but in reverse

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Note added at 10 mins (2007-01-07 19:16:44 GMT)
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Literally: dating back to Morgan in Engels' rendition

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Note added at 13 mins (2007-01-07 19:19:11 GMT)
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oops... Engels's :-)

Anton Konashenok
Czech Republic
Local time: 15:46
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Thank you Anton for uncovering the meaning for me. A simple grammar construction that had me confused. And sorry about making it pro - you're right, it probably ought not to have been, but I'm never quite sure what to do in such cases. I am a pro and didn't get it. Does that mean it's a pro question? Perhaps not. Anyway, thanks.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
dating back to unforgettable L. G. Morgan in Engel's exposition (exposition by Engels)


Explanation:
I would have rated it 4.5 if I could because it indeed does go to back to Morgan who apparently had developed the concepts initially and Engels reproduced them later.

Zamira B.
United Kingdom
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
that can be traced back to the unforgettable L.G. Morgan in Engels' exposition


Explanation:
Я думаю, что trace back здесь будет более уместно, поскольку речь ведь идет не о датировке (goes back to...), а о происхождении такого взгляда.

Goldvic
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which can be traced back to F. Engels's summary of memorable L.G. Morgan's works


Explanation:
Engels developed the ideas of Morgan to write his famous work "Origin of the family, private property, and the state"



Valery Kaminski
Belarus
Local time: 17:46
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[in terms of methodology originally proposed by venerable L.G. Morgan and interpreted by F. Engels


Explanation:
"в изложении" относится к "схемам", а не к Моргану (по смыслу).

Alexander Demidov
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