contramarcă

13:24 Mar 5, 2011 

eu aşa zic...:)

10:19 Mar 5, 2011 

Ok :)
Din context pare să reiasă că "înscrisul X 2" ar fi contramarca, iar "stema imperială" filigranul. Ambele sunt deci watermark?

10:05 Mar 5, 2011 

şi da e asemănătoare unui filigran plasat la sfârșitul unei cărţi

A watermark is very useful in the examination of paper because it can be used for dating, identifying sizes, mill trademarks and locations, and the quality of a paper.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermark

09:43 Mar 5, 2011 

Beginning in the sixteenth century, in addition to these watermarks, many papers also were given smaller, secondary marks called countermarks. Countermarks were usually small letters or numbers or simple shapes such as flowers or shields. Countermarks were situated in a corner of the sheet of paper, usually on the opposite half of the sheet from the watermark. In codices, they usually appear on one of the outer corners of the folio, if they have not been trimmed off in the course of binding and rebinding the codex.

http://abacus.bates.edu/wmarchive/Information.html#ctrmks

09:17 Mar 5, 2011 

Nu e perfectă, dar poate ajută :)

09:08 Mar 5, 2011 

filigree mark ? stylyzed ? on the moment a manuscript has been written ? furculission ?

09:01 Mar 5, 2011 

The filigrees marks of those manuscripts are very interesting from the scientific point of view, because they sometimes represent the only source of establishing the date a text has been writen, a text whose provenence is still unknown. There are about 53 types of filigrees that may be identified on the Slavonic manuscripts from Cluj-Napoca and the images they represent are quite divers: anchors inside of a cercle; half moons; simple or countermarked trefoil; capital or initial letters, simple or accompanying some figurines; lilies in cercle; hands and stars; crosses, horseshoes; axes; crossing swords; oxes heads; shields; coats of arms; boars; embattled towers; royal crowns; hearts; cavaliers in armour; keys; boats etc., all of them being stylyzed in various ways.
A more profound study of these wattered filigree marks may reveal information on the moment a manuscript has been writen, information about the provenance territory and even about the spreading area of this sort of paper. The study may also be the starting point in establishing the political and commercial relations between states or provinces in certain ages.
http://www.bjmures.ro/bd/B/001/13/B00113.pdf

08:47 Mar 5, 2011 

Eu am găsit că watermark ar fi filigran, iar contramarcă: un al doilea filigran "numit contramarcă" sau un al doilea filigran "cu funcţie de contramarcă" (protecţie împotriva falsificării). Habar n-am care e varianta corectă :)

07:54 Mar 5, 2011 

am sugerat ”watermark” dar am retras-o ulterior fiindcă nu sunt sigur că este ce ai nevoie.

12:38 Mar 4, 2011 

a fost sugestia unui prozian pe care l-aş ruga să posteze răspuns, pentru a putea fi notat şi introdus în glosare....mulţumesc:)

12:26 Mar 4, 2011 

M-am gândit la counterseal, dar avem şi noi contrasigiliu. Ar fi de văzut countermark, dar nu am găsit nici o referinţă.

Coun`ter`mark´ (koun`tẽr`märk´)
n. 1. A mark or token added to those already existing, in order to afford security or proof; as, an additional or special mark put upon a package of goods belonging to several persons, that it may not be opened except in the presence of all; a mark added to that of an artificer of gold or silver work by the Goldsmiths' Company of London, to attest the standard quality of the gold or silver; a mark added to an ancient coin or medal, to show either its change of value or that it was taken from an enemy.