"estante"

English translation: "copy holder".. "copy stand"

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Portuguese term or phrase:"estante"
English translation:"copy holder".. "copy stand"
Entered by: airmailrpl

21:31 Mar 23, 2011
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Printing & Publishing / typesetting
Portuguese term or phrase: "estante"
This is from a piece nostalgically listing processes and materials used during the pre-digital age of typesetting:

"que falta me faz o cheirinho da tinta [...] quando o compositor nos vinha gabar o que tinha [...] quando a **“estante”** não era um sitio para pôr livros mas uma tábua vertical onde se punha o original a compor…"

is this a stand or an easel of some sort? a case? I have done a fair bit of research on the term but would appreciate input from someone with more knowledge of the process. I'm hoping it's something that will work in the same way as the Portuguese...

thanks in advance (PT Portuguese)
Lucy Phillips
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:47
"copy holder".. "copy stand"
Explanation:
"estante" => "copy holder".. "copy stand"

copy holder > porte-copie
In English, it is called a "copy holder", a "copy stand" or a "paper stand". DEF – A device for holding copy that is being typed, typeset, .
www.proz.com › KudoZ home › English to French › Other -

Copy Stands - Copy Stand, Book Stands, Book Rests, Book Holders
A copy stand will allow you to take any writing you have to do just a little bit more seriously, helping you to find just the right words even more quickly.
www.levenger.com/pagetemplates/product/content.asp?...559..... -

Copy Stand
Think of a copy stand as a very specialized tripod, and think of copystand work as specialized macrophotography of still things. Once you've done that, ...
www.marietta.edu/~mcshaffd/macro/copy.html

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Asker: thanks airmail - now the question is how to make the book comparison work in English?!

Some things are not possible. This ones does not seem to be possible - Maybe a footnote??

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Note added at 1 hr (2011-03-23 23:12:42 GMT)
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Try looking in here

[PDF]
Glossary of Printing Terms
Pica: Unit of measure in typesetting. One pica = 1/6 inch. Picking: Printers nightmare that ... Stet: A proof mark meaning let the original copy stand. ...
www.murrprintingbeaufort.com/pdf/glossary.pdf

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DOU 31/12/1945 - Pág. 43 - Seção 1 - Diário Oficial da União
jusbrasil.com.br -
1 serra elétrica; 1 caldeira- para- fundição de metal linotipo; 1 Vim° manual; 6 . carros para paginação; 1 prelo; estantes de composição; ...
www.jusbrasil.com.br/diarios/.../dou-secao-1-31-12-1945-pg-... -

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Publicação - SICON : Senado Federal - Portal de Legislação
senado.gov.br -
a) Turma de Linotipo. - Compor 1.000 linhas, corpo 7x126, medida de 12 cíceros; ... assim como limpeza e organização das mesas e estantes de distribuição. ...
www6.senado.gov.br/legislacao/ListaPublicacoes.action?id=118401 -
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airmailrpl
Brazil
Local time: 16:47
Grading comment
I have to give the points to this answer for all the really helpful points it raised and all your research - I arrived at the decision to use 'shelf' but only after finding it as an alternative suggestion to mean copy holder or stand. Many thanks.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +2"copy holder".. "copy stand"
airmailrpl
5Bookshelf
Ivan Rocha, CT
4 -1shelf
Marlene Curtis


Discussion entries: 10





  

Answers


4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Bookshelf


Explanation:
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Ivan Rocha, CT
Canada
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mark Robertson: Isn't that what the source text says estante doesn't mean?
1 min

disagree  airmailrpl: "uma tábua vertical" makes for a strange Bookshelf....definitely not a "uma tábua vertical onde se punha o original a compor" - quite hard to read the text to be typeset if it is horizontal
28 mins
  -> http://www.sogar.com.au/verticalbookcase

agree  Paula.V
46 mins
  -> Grato, Paula.
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
shelf


Explanation:

A shelf, a vertical board.

Marlene Curtis
United States
Local time: 15:47
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 16
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Marlene, I've found a few references for copy shelf, so hopefully I can make this work.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  airmailrpl: "uma tábua vertical" => a vertical board => makes for a strange shelf - most shelves have horizontal boards..where is Mark's reference??
24 mins
  -> See Mark's reference for a vertical board...
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42 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
"copy holder".. "copy stand"


Explanation:
"estante" => "copy holder".. "copy stand"

copy holder > porte-copie
In English, it is called a "copy holder", a "copy stand" or a "paper stand". DEF – A device for holding copy that is being typed, typeset, .
www.proz.com › KudoZ home › English to French › Other -

Copy Stands - Copy Stand, Book Stands, Book Rests, Book Holders
A copy stand will allow you to take any writing you have to do just a little bit more seriously, helping you to find just the right words even more quickly.
www.levenger.com/pagetemplates/product/content.asp?...559..... -

Copy Stand
Think of a copy stand as a very specialized tripod, and think of copystand work as specialized macrophotography of still things. Once you've done that, ...
www.marietta.edu/~mcshaffd/macro/copy.html

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Note added at 1 hr (2011-03-23 22:57:01 GMT)
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Asker: thanks airmail - now the question is how to make the book comparison work in English?!

Some things are not possible. This ones does not seem to be possible - Maybe a footnote??

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Note added at 1 hr (2011-03-23 23:12:42 GMT)
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Try looking in here

[PDF]
Glossary of Printing Terms
Pica: Unit of measure in typesetting. One pica = 1/6 inch. Picking: Printers nightmare that ... Stet: A proof mark meaning let the original copy stand. ...
www.murrprintingbeaufort.com/pdf/glossary.pdf

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Note added at 1 day8 hrs (2011-03-25 05:57:15 GMT)
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DOU 31/12/1945 - Pág. 43 - Seção 1 - Diário Oficial da União
jusbrasil.com.br -
1 serra elétrica; 1 caldeira- para- fundição de metal linotipo; 1 Vim° manual; 6 . carros para paginação; 1 prelo; estantes de composição; ...
www.jusbrasil.com.br/diarios/.../dou-secao-1-31-12-1945-pg-... -

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Note added at 1 day8 hrs (2011-03-25 06:27:28 GMT)
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Publicação - SICON : Senado Federal - Portal de Legislação
senado.gov.br -
a) Turma de Linotipo. - Compor 1.000 linhas, corpo 7x126, medida de 12 cíceros; ... assim como limpeza e organização das mesas e estantes de distribuição. ...
www6.senado.gov.br/legislacao/ListaPublicacoes.action?id=118401 -

airmailrpl
Brazil
Local time: 16:47
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
I have to give the points to this answer for all the really helpful points it raised and all your research - I arrived at the decision to use 'shelf' but only after finding it as an alternative suggestion to mean copy holder or stand. Many thanks.
Notes to answerer
Asker: thanks airmail - now the question is how to make the book comparison work in English?! Oh, a good image here, I think: http://www.prepressure.com/images/prepress_history_compuwriterII.jpg


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mark Robertson: I prefer copy stand.
2 mins
  -> I do as well

agree  Salvador Scofano and Gry Midttun
7 mins
  -> agradeço

disagree  Marlene Curtis: copy stand doesn't convey the "estante" (book) conotation at all. I agree with Lucy's observation above...
2 hrs
  -> It is definitely NOT a shelf. The copy is NOT hung on a shelf. Some things are not possible. This ones does not seem to be possible to find an English word which works for both

agree  Carlos Quandt: "copy holder" was the term in English way back when > Routine checkups should be as much a part of Linotype operation as seeing that metal is in the metal pot and copy on the copy holder. ... www.linotype.org/OnLineDocs/GenMaint/GMRoutine.html
1 day 2 hrs
  -> agradeço
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