provincia

English translation: province

05:17 Oct 19, 2012
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Names (personal, company) / list of patronages
Italian term or phrase: provincia
In a list of Italian organizations giving their support and/or patronage to a conference, the majority have official English names (chambers of commerce, bank foundations and government bodies and one will be left in Italian (Confindustria), but two do not have an official English name.... I'm not too happy with some in English and some not.... any suggestions?
I'm also undecided as to translate Provincia as Provincial Administration or Provincial Government.
ulvaferry
Local time: 14:39
English translation:province
Explanation:
In the context, "The Province of Rimini". The "Provincial Government of Rimini" sounds horrible to my ear and government can be safely left out just as "council" is in British English for counties.


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BRECONSHIRE
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A: Inspection by the County of BRECONSHIRE.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2012-10-19 15:03:43 GMT)
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A lot of other people think that county is sufficiently precise in English and a lot of other people think that provincia is sufficiently precise in Italian. Ask yourself the question, whether you think anybody is going to find it confusing and misinterpret it if you put don't put government. To me "government" or "administration" is unnecessary extra verbiage, which also sounds a little unnatural.
However, your unwillingness to give extra context means that after nine hours you have only one answer.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2012-10-19 15:08:57 GMT)
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The glossary reference is where the asker specifically asked for provincia in the sense of the government, but here and also in most cases the context makes it clear that it is the government of the province, where province is a metonym for government of the province, as in "He drank the bottle."
Having said all that, it hardly matters which you put really, either will do.

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Note added at 10 hrs (2012-10-19 15:23:27 GMT)
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We asked for the original source text. All we got was one word and another two after asking. I had no idea what to do with "provincia" on its own, until you added "... di Rimini". You presumed it was clear, before, but it wasn't, at least not to me. When I post, I usually copy and paste in ten or more lines. That also tends to save time explaining, because most things are then self-evident.
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James (Jim) Davis
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Local time: 17:39
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5 +1province
James (Jim) Davis
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Have you tried browsing the glossary?
Barbara Carrara

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province


Explanation:
In the context, "The Province of Rimini". The "Provincial Government of Rimini" sounds horrible to my ear and government can be safely left out just as "council" is in British English for counties.


County of Middlesex Lowers Cost of Ownership for ... - Trend Micro
www.trendmicro.co.uk/.../security-suite-deep-security-arm-m...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
long-term care home owned and operated by the County of Middlesex. “The McAfee solution was not doing its job,” said Gary Reed, Technology Manager for the ...

BRECONSHIRE
www.maths.lse.ac.uk/Personal/norman/BRE.pdf
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
A: Inspection by the County of BRECONSHIRE.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2012-10-19 15:03:43 GMT)
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A lot of other people think that county is sufficiently precise in English and a lot of other people think that provincia is sufficiently precise in Italian. Ask yourself the question, whether you think anybody is going to find it confusing and misinterpret it if you put don't put government. To me "government" or "administration" is unnecessary extra verbiage, which also sounds a little unnatural.
However, your unwillingness to give extra context means that after nine hours you have only one answer.

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Note added at 9 hrs (2012-10-19 15:08:57 GMT)
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The glossary reference is where the asker specifically asked for provincia in the sense of the government, but here and also in most cases the context makes it clear that it is the government of the province, where province is a metonym for government of the province, as in "He drank the bottle."
Having said all that, it hardly matters which you put really, either will do.

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Note added at 10 hrs (2012-10-19 15:23:27 GMT)
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We asked for the original source text. All we got was one word and another two after asking. I had no idea what to do with "provincia" on its own, until you added "... di Rimini". You presumed it was clear, before, but it wasn't, at least not to me. When I post, I usually copy and paste in ten or more lines. That also tends to save time explaining, because most things are then self-evident.

James (Jim) Davis
Seychelles
Local time: 17:39
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 3
Notes to answerer
Asker: A lot of people seem to think that using just Province (or County) is not sufficiently precise, as it is (obviously) not the Country that inspects or operates, but its authorities or representative, so prefer to add something to that effect - you consider this superfluous, I gather.

Asker: I indicated absolutely all the context... describing (I presumed clearly) the project I was working on.... no "unwillingness" on my behalf, as I wanted and have greatly appreciated assistance recieved in the past.

Asker: received


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  darwilliam: agree with Jim on this, I'd say the same
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Reference comments


4 mins peer agreement (net): +2
Reference: Have you tried browsing the glossary?

Reference information:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/italian_to_english/government_poli...

Barbara Carrara
Italy
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
Note to reference poster
Asker: my indecision was in fact between Provincial Administration and Provincial Government, both of which seem quite "popular" in the glossary you indicate.


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  philgoddard
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  -> Thanks, Phil.
agree  darwilliam
56 mins
  -> Thank you!
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