Tim. (in a military title)

English translation: QM (Quartermaster)

21:05 Jun 11, 2005
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Italian term or phrase: Tim. (in a military title)
In the military records, this deceased individual is listed as "2a C. Tim ROSSI, CARLO." I know the first part is "2nd Company", but I can't find the "Tim."
Traci Andrighetti
English translation:QM (Quartermaster)
Explanation:
I agree that Tim. most likely stands for Timoniere. English equivalents to this term are quartermaster, helmsman, coxswain (A Dictionary of Italian-English, English-Italian Naval Equivalents, Naval Intelligence Division, 1944 and Oxford-Paravia online at http://www.oxfordparavia.it/lemmaEng30361).

Although in army terms a quartermaster has an entirely different role, one of the navy quartermaster's duties is to steer the ship. ***In other words, quartermaster is the title, helmsman is one of his duties.*** This is true both in the Royal Navy (U.K.) and in the U.S. Navy (http://www.usmilitary.com/navyenlistedoccupations.html/ and http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/content.php3?page=6982/).

I would add that the "2a C." might well mean "di 2a. Classe," or second class. This list of Italian military decorees gives some examples of the use: http://digilander.libero.it/carandin/decorati1861.htm/.
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3 +1helmsman
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helmsman


Explanation:
it could be an abbreviation for timoniere - helmsman , if it's a navy rank

Daniela Zambrini
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agree  Michael Deliso: agree. 2nd level helmsman
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QM (Quartermaster)


Explanation:
I agree that Tim. most likely stands for Timoniere. English equivalents to this term are quartermaster, helmsman, coxswain (A Dictionary of Italian-English, English-Italian Naval Equivalents, Naval Intelligence Division, 1944 and Oxford-Paravia online at http://www.oxfordparavia.it/lemmaEng30361).

Although in army terms a quartermaster has an entirely different role, one of the navy quartermaster's duties is to steer the ship. ***In other words, quartermaster is the title, helmsman is one of his duties.*** This is true both in the Royal Navy (U.K.) and in the U.S. Navy (http://www.usmilitary.com/navyenlistedoccupations.html/ and http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/content.php3?page=6982/).

I would add that the "2a C." might well mean "di 2a. Classe," or second class. This list of Italian military decorees gives some examples of the use: http://digilander.libero.it/carandin/decorati1861.htm/.


    Reference: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/7545/ratings/adm...
    Reference: http://www.occupationalinfo.org/91/911363014.html
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