gak ada loe gak rame

English translation: without you, it ain't fun

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Indonesian term or phrase:gak ada loe gak rame
English translation:without you, it ain't fun
Entered by: Catherine Muir

09:01 Feb 25, 2013
Indonesian to English translations [PRO]
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings / Jakarta bahasa gaul?
Indonesian term or phrase: gak ada loe gak rame
The context is common perceptions of the importance of smoking to men, i.e., manliness, mateship, etc. A comment made by someone interviewed about the role of smoking to gatherings of men.
Catherine Muir
Australia
Local time: 02:43
without you, it ain't fun
Explanation:

Sampoerna is very creative in disguising their true message. Once they used How low can you go? to market its low nicotine cigarette. Or, Go Ahead with a stress on the A, to market Sampoerna A product line (=intepretable as Please, go ahead smoking Sampoerna A).

Gak ada loe gak rame is a two-pronged message:

(a) literally, there will be no fun without you;
(b) there will be no fun without smoking [this brand].

It will be hard to find a translation that covers both, IMHO. I don't know if any English speaker will ever interpret you as you and/or smoking this brand like Indonesian may interpret loe as kamu dan/atau rokok merek ini.

To introduce informality, ain't is a good way, I guess. You may even try the double negative version that seems to be very popular in the web (with more than 114k hits):

without you, it ain't no fun
Selected response from:

ErichEko ⟹⭐
Indonesia
Local time: 22:43
Grading comment
Your explanation was most helpful. Thank you, Erich
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3its no fun without you
Rano Ilyas
4It's not gonna be fun without you
Rona Desfy P., SS
4without you, it ain't fun
ErichEko ⟹⭐
4not nice without you
Ahmad Ridwan Munib
3it wouldn't be fun without you
Ikram Mahyuddin
3your presence means fun!
Agustinus


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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
It's not gonna be fun without you


Explanation:
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Rona Desfy P., SS
Indonesia
Local time: 22:43
Native speaker of: Indonesian
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you, Rona. I see it is a slogan of Sampoerna Hijau. I had no idea.

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
without you, it ain't fun


Explanation:

Sampoerna is very creative in disguising their true message. Once they used How low can you go? to market its low nicotine cigarette. Or, Go Ahead with a stress on the A, to market Sampoerna A product line (=intepretable as Please, go ahead smoking Sampoerna A).

Gak ada loe gak rame is a two-pronged message:

(a) literally, there will be no fun without you;
(b) there will be no fun without smoking [this brand].

It will be hard to find a translation that covers both, IMHO. I don't know if any English speaker will ever interpret you as you and/or smoking this brand like Indonesian may interpret loe as kamu dan/atau rokok merek ini.

To introduce informality, ain't is a good way, I guess. You may even try the double negative version that seems to be very popular in the web (with more than 114k hits):

without you, it ain't no fun

ErichEko ⟹⭐
Indonesia
Local time: 22:43
Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Your explanation was most helpful. Thank you, Erich
Notes to answerer
Asker: Wonderful, Erich! I will have to explain this double meaning in a footnote to the translation. It is very clever advertising. The crux is that smoking is essential to enjoyment of men's get-togethers.

Asker: Further, it's like Australian men and drinking...it's no fun unless they drink together, too often to excess.

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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
not nice without you


Explanation:
"gak ada loe gak rame" means not nice without you. It implies you should be always with us.

Ahmad Ridwan Munib
Indonesia
Local time: 22:43
Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian, Native in JavaneseJavanese
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
its no fun without you


Explanation:
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Rano Ilyas
Local time: 22:43
Native speaker of: Indonesian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Eddie R. Notowidigdo: This is the most natural suggestion.
5 hrs

agree  Edward Thornton: It's
14 hrs

agree  Sari Gonneau
3 days 4 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
it wouldn't be fun without you


Explanation:
imho

Ikram Mahyuddin
Indonesia
Local time: 22:43
Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
your presence means fun!


Explanation:
just an alternative - the positive version. :)

Agustinus
Indonesia
Local time: 22:43
Native speaker of: Indonesian
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